Israel/Palestine thread

Probably because no one has ever suggested to me that soldiers from the USA are incapable of committing rape, but you go ahead and knock down whatever strawmen you encounter.

right, so another thing the Palestinians have been saying has been happening for decades finally looks true to you guys.

yes I agree that continuing the insane mass rape hoax bc of something "Homer wrote" is completely baffling. buts lib will be libs and they will always side with genocide.

oh, so you think the discussion is about if any Palestinians are capable of doing rape and not about this specific instance of debunked atrocity propaganda?

Logic would dictate that a big factor in war rapes is how confident you are that you will be able to hold your position (militarily, of course). If you are sacking Troy and the opposing army is in tatters, then yeah, it makes sense that there would be a lot of rapes, but is it really insane to think that when you are doing a raid with the goal of getting as many hostages as possible, in a situation where the enemy is not in tatters and has attack helicopters with Hannibal Directive authorization coming after you, that rape wouldn't be the first thing on your mind?

well put brother

Stop it Trolly I know you're not that dense. Jocks have been known to date rape. If I told you yeah but they don't do it during half time of the a game or match because the circumstances are prohibitive are you going to retort by asking me if I am deny date rapes happen?

For those who can't think it through you can just trust the Israeli prosecutor who stated that there are no (as in zero as in none as in nothing here to see folks) complainants.

https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/187581...

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good analogy

On god, I did not think "men rape women during armed conflicts" would be a controversial take, but here we are.

The Israeli prosecutor says no one says Hamas raped them. She said this fact is in opposition to the news coverage. I don't see the humor there. You think it's funny our news organizations are so influenced by a foreign country that they put out stories they know are fake at the direction of that foreign country and everyone believes it?

I was making fun of Israelis being outbred by the Palestinians while the Palestinians are in such dire conditions. Plus the Israeli women look so much better (according to my admittedly Western tastes), and when you see the Israeli soldiers looking like children in Halloween costumes...it's just funny to me. But I shouldn't say such things because obviously, for the pro Israelis here, it is a source of shame. And to the pro Palestinians posters, they feel like they have to be on their best behavior given that their main argument is that they are on the moral high ground. And they are, of course, as am I. Only I think it's so obvious I am I that I don't mind being ill mannered while I'm up here.

the mass rape hoax is only controversial to the most genocidal of people on the planet. ie, the liberals.

You should peruse the official timeline of 10/7. The Israeli response was actually extremely slow. Most of the terrorists (especially the fist wave that was mostly Hamas) had plenty of time to massacre, take hostages, and get back before Israel had responded at all. There was plenty of time for sexual violence for those that may have been inclined.

Saying there was no time for sexual violence just shows profound ignorance on your part of how 10/7 went down.

Israel has the highest birthrate of any developed nation; but Palestinians have had an insanely high birthrate over the last 80 years (although it has started to slow down some), completely subsidized by western largesse.

Historically, it is perhaps one of the highest birthrates of any society ever. My and your tax dollars, and the extremely backwards patriarchal theocratic structure of Palestinian society, is the reason for their giant demographic explosion.

According to Arafat this was intentionally done, so that Palestinians could eventually overwhelm Israeli Jews through sheer demographics.

There is no reason for Israelis to be concerned their birthrate is too low. Although the entire world should be concerned how Palestinian demographic trends are contributing to the dysfunction and hopelessness of the situation. For such a small territory, with no economy to speak of, and an completely backwards, radicalized populace; having such a giant, growing population has been a disaster.

Of course if me and you stopped subsidizing this ridiculousness; things would quickly take care of themselves. You cant have a society with no economy to speak of and unlimited children without someone else paying for it all and providing for you and them.

Also, unlike Gaza which is a theocratic ethnostate (99% Muslim Arab); Israel is extremely cosmopolitan and diverse wrt race, religion and culture; so making any blanket statement about the appearance of "Israeli women" isn't very accurate or useful.

In other news, Turkey is continuing its takover of Syrian army and airbases in the Western part of the country.

On one hand, this could be a positive for the region as Turkish military power can continue to restrain Hezbollah, the IRGC, and ISIS. But Turkish military assets operating directly in Syria also increases the possibility of direct confrontation between Turkey and Israel, which is in no ones best interests (except perhaps Erdogan, if things get bad enough politically at home he can potentially wag the dog by starting a war with Israel).

I didn’t know they had such a high number of liberals in that neck of the wood ….

Well if u can explain to me how innocent being killed is wrong when being done by Hamas and it’s ok when it’s done by Israel let me know …

If Hamas is despicable in its action , don’t expect a different interpretation because Israel does it .
And that doesn’t mean I would support Hamas .
It means I find both side disgusting.

So you recognize Palestinian statehood?

Pointing out the lack of diversity in Gaza is no different than pointing out the lack of diversity in the Jewish ghettos in occupied Poland.

Some people can’t comprehend Hamas may actually be really bad people who do terrible things to their own people.

Some people can’t comprehend killing innocent people is always bad , regardless the killer is good or bad .

If there was one community in the world that I believe would never dismiss the Genova convention so easily it was exactly the Jews post 1945 ..

Guess I was wrong .

I never said it was okay that civilians are killed. Huge difference between Hamas gleefully murdering people and displaying flat out triumphalism, and civilians killed as collateral damage due to Hamas using them as human shields It's utterly incredible you actually need this distinction pointed out to you. Your whole attitude is wailing and pearl clutching when it comes to Israel, yet merely shrugging when Hamas torture and kill suspected "collaborators ".

I'm not on the "mass rape" side, I don't swallow govt propaganda, especially during wartime. Is your stance zero rape? I don't know Victor's stance but the last few pages he seems to be painting it that way. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
I appreciate your argument but another way to frame it. These guys have been training for over a year, maybe years, for a historic operation against their greatest enemy, people they have hated for generations. The odds are stacked against you. The operation has gone mostly flawlessly and you control one of your enemy's villages after a brief resistance from the residents. You and your brothers who you have been training side by side with have enjoyed a great victory and the Zionist army is still nowhere to be seen.
Out of the 1,000+ of the first wave or guys that came in shortly after you don't think there are a depraved handful that took advantage of the situation? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

the mass rape story was completely made up. it was focus tested to be as shocking as possible. there were no gangrapes or any of the lurid tales that we have repeated. every single one has been debunked.

nor did Hamas have some evil plan to do a bunch of rape. its absurd on its face.

the West and Zionists were heavily invested in this narrative and it fell apart with the slightest pushback using critical thinking, and actual evidence.

the very normal people in our society support mass beheadings of babies. they support literal rivers of blood in Gaza and Syria. they support raping doctors to death in torture camps.

so yes, I am extremely mentally ill compared to you guys.

This doesn’t explicitly mention the thousands of Gazan “civilians” who spontaneously joined in on the attack and had no special mission or purpose other than to rape and kill.