Israel/Palestine thread
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anyway, a few days ago this entire thread told me I was wrong and making things up when I relayed that Israel executed over a dozen paramedics and civil workers. now all of the mainstream Western news sources have reported on it. and white UN workers saw it with their own eyes as they accompanied the Palestinians. https://x.com/UNOCHA/status/190667846931... (also on this guys page you can see 2 people get shot and killed while they were going to the site.
will these people think about why
A lot of Mohammed's killed lately. Does Hamas have any leadership left?
That article is behind a paywall. But regardless, we know the beats. All the information provided is from the Gaza Health Ministry, and there will be no outside corroborating evidence.
not paywalled for me and I dont subscribe to lol wapo.
theres actual video of the recovery of the bodies and equipment. and a white guy from the UN was there! I posted the link to his twitter with the actual videos.
but why look at the actual evidence? well bc you know that it destroys the world view that you try to project.
Speaking of the Gaza Health Ministry…
NYT finally
the medic massacre on an inside page.
The UN and the Red Cross/Red Crescent all attributed the killings to the IDF and named all the casualties and said they were theirs.
NYT finally
the medic massacre on an inside page.The UN and the Red Cross/Red Crescent all attributed the killings to the IDF and named all the casualties and said they were theirs.
New terrorist meta: join the UN and dress up as rescue workers.
The UN has politicized their peacekeeping forces and thus has lost a lot of the trust and goodwill they built up over the years.
By the way, if you get mad at this argument I don’t want to hear anything about how the Peace Corps are secret CIA spies. Notice how the incredulity only goes one way.
Speaking of the Gaza Health Ministry…
The article's source is frankly hasbara.
But information coming straight from Hamas is trustworthy. It’s like you don’t even try to use your brain, Bill. You’re so dull.
I wonder if these guys ever get tired of repeating the same buzzwords over and over. Bill, your handlers need to pass down some new material.
But information coming straight from Hamas is trustworthy.
infinitely moreso than anything from Israel.
But information coming straight from Hamas is trustworthy. It’s like you don’t even try to use your brain, Bill. You’re so dull.
I wonder if these guys ever get tired of repeating the same buzzwords over and over. Bill, your handlers need to pass down some new material.
Nobody is using Hamas as the source on the medic massacre. The articles are multi-sourced.
their argument is literally that the UN is now Hamas
New terrorist meta: join the UN and dress up as rescue workers.
some of these people are just dumb. but many of them know they are lying. they are fully aware of the absurdity of their replies.
Just playing devil's advocate but I've been living in a sexually repressed theocratic society my whole life and I'm on a suicide mission, I'm probably going to die within hours. I've got a window to get my **** on. Allah ackbar or ****?
You don't a have window for anything. You guys watch too many movies or take them too seriously. You know the main reason there are a limited number of male porn actors? It's not the size requirements. It's that most guys can't maintain an erection in the context of shooting a movie, even with fluffers and willing women etc. There is no sex of any kind on suicide missions ffs. I would ask how can we not agree on this, but the stuff believed by the masses...it's like smell test or common sense has zero impact on how digestible it is.
I was in here in 2016 outlining how illogical it was to think Trump is conspiring with Putin. There was no need of any investigation. I said in advance, based on simple reasoning, that the Mueller report would be a nothing burger and, of course, it was one of the bigger nothing burger's ever. Nobody should have been surprised by that, yet everybody was shocked. Just think a little bit.
And most of Hamas are young fighters who have likely never even seen an Israeli face to face. They are locked in Gaza and their tormentors don't come in to check up on them. They just have all these dance parties within earshot of the concentration camp. Oct 7 they are riding paragliders for the first time ever, killing people for the first time ever, leaving Gaza for the first time ever, about to die, maybe never had sex before, and you think are going to be raping? Story does not remotely check out. Just think a little, please.
You don't a have window for anything. You guys watch too many movies or take them too seriously. You know the main reason there are a limited number of male porn actors? It's not the size requirements. It's that most guys can't maintain an erection in the context of shooting a movie, even with fluffers and willing women etc. There is no sex of any kind on suicide missions ffs.
I'm sorry, are you challenging the general notion that soldiers commit rapes during war?
I'm sorry, are you challenging the general notion that soldiers commit rapes during war?
you could just read his post and realize thats not what he said. hes giving reasons for why in this case rape was unlikely. fwiw, I am not sure if I follow his porn analogy but the idea that these are not battle hardened war veterans raping through France and Germany and Okinawa like the Americans did in WW2, but rather a bunch of inexperienced kids in the middle of their first battle is pretty compelling.
Story does not remotely check out. Just think a little, please.
also, remember that the narrative was that they planned to do a lot of rape and were directed to do it by Sinwar and Dief and the leaders. its absurd on its face.
You don't a have window for anything. You guys watch too many movies or take them too seriously. You know the main reason there are a limited number of male porn actors? It's not the size requirements. It's that most guys can't maintain an erection in the context of shooting a movie, even with fluffers and willing women etc. There is no sex of any kind on suicide missions ffs. I would ask how can we not agree on this, but the stuff believed by the masses...it's like smell test or common sense ha
Your knowledge of human nature, and of modern history, appears to put you in the remedial class.
Here is the difference in this conflict. If the "Palestinians" would just lay down their weapons they would have their state. If the Israelis laid down their weapons they would be wiped out by the "Palestinians".
Here is the difference in this conflict. If the "Palestinians" would just lay down their weapons they would have their state. If the Israelis laid down their weapons they would be wiped out by the "Palestinians".
every time they lay down their weapons they get massacred and cleansed.
in fact, Bibi just said the other day that after they lay down their weapons they will get removed from Gaza and Palestine.
DuecesMcCracken is here as a comedian. When you realize this his posts suddenly make more sense. He’s extremely unfunny and bigoted but it is what it is.
I'm sorry, are you challenging the general notion that soldiers commit rapes during war?
No I'm just saying in the specific circumstances of basically a concentration camp revolt coming in off homemade paragliders, soldiers who have never fought before, possible never had sex before, never killed anyone before, and with the Israeli army and imminent death over their shoulder, probably aren't in any of several moods befitting sexy time. You rape after you've secured the territory not when the bullets are flying.
Why does this need to be explained to anybody?
Probably because men raping the **** of women during wartime is one of the most well-documented, well-attested things ever. Pretty sure Homer talks about it way back in the Illiad, like this is what happens in just about every armed conflict ever. The idea that Palestinians are a magical exception is just pants-on-head stupid.
Probably because men raping the **** of women during wartime is one of the most well-documented, well-attested things ever. Pretty sure Homer talks about it way back in the Illiad, like this is what happens in just about every armed conflict ever. The idea that Palestinians are a magical exception is just pants-on-head stupid.
except this isnt "men raping women during war time". thats not the allegation and its the height of dishonesty to frame it that way.
also, I dont ever see you taking this reductionist approach to how Israel or Ukraine or the USA treat women "during wartime". if somebody went on and on in the Ukraine thread about how during the Kursk invasion they raped a ton of women, then you would be like wtf, show some evidence? and rightly so. but when it comes to Palestinians, its like ofc they did rape, after all it was war and they are scary barbarians. what do you expect?
As a ratio of population, the number of journalists killed in Gaza is equivalent to 8,500 dying in the U.S.
They are obviously targeted.
Probably because men raping the **** of women during wartime is one of the most well-documented, well-attested things ever. Pretty sure Homer talks about it way back in the Illiad, like this is what happens in just about every armed conflict ever. The idea that Palestinians are a magical exception is just pants-on-head stupid.
Cmon Trolly, let’s defer to the resident rape expert on this one.
As a ratio of population, the number of journalists killed in Gaza is equivalent to 8,500 dying in the U.S.
They are obviously targeted.
Yes, they probably are, as are emergency responders. It does look that way.
I like how we’re presented with probably the most ******ed take in the entire thread and Victor is still willing to give it the benefit of the doubt because it has elements of antisemitism and extreme disinformation baked in.
