Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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I do appreciate that the same people who are faux outraged that foreign nationals in the US are being deported on specious evidence of supporting Hamas; just completely take Hamas as their word that people they torture and murder were collaborators (with no evidence at all) and therefor got what they deserve.
It really just emphasizes just how bad faith actors like Victor and Deuces are; and how eager they are to lick fascist boots with the best of them, as long as it is their fascists of choic
I thought it was understood that most of what you report proves later to be lies. You know, like babies heads being cut off, mass rape hoax, etc. What I thought it was understood I meant was, in principle, if Hamas killed traitors who aided Israel in its genocide against the Palestinians, that that is pretty standard and it is the right thing to do. This is not a commentary on the facts of the case of which I know nothing.
People who are anti fascists don't like any fascists. Fascist doesn't mean authoritarian or performers of state violence. The political philosophy of Hamas is not something in which I'm particularly interested. Hamas is resisting evil fascists of Israel who are trying to kill and displace Palestinians, and who display daily acts of unspeakable horror against Palestinians only because they are not Jewish. The main thing about Hamas is they are against that and are fighting and dying to stop it and that is admirable.
It's like the Holocaust is being livestreamed and you are cheering it on and, unfortunately, I've been proven right about the proliferative existence of people like yourself. They are all over the place, little Nazis in waiting, little cowards who just wait for a fascist movement to enable them to gang up on people and commit twisted atrocities against them. My reasoning in predicting you and your kind, while in the midst of your appearing dormant through your your cowardice, was simply that there was nothing special about Germans. They are just people like other people. If that many Germans can be turned into raving maniac servants to evil, any group of people can. And look here you are.
I said they should be tried in a court of law. just like all of the Capos and Quislings and Vichies and collaborators should have been tried. its unfortunate that the genocidal forces destroyed all the courts.
anyway, the story is obv bullshit just like all the other crap that you guys have latched onto which is always debunked. until I find something better than Dun posted about and some of the worst right wing Hasbara accounts boosted it, I will file it right next to the beheaded babies, Bib
Gaza Now, which originated that particular story and video, is a Hamas-affiliated source, based inside Gaza and subject to US and UK sanctions for fundraising for Hamas. Its founder, Mustafa Ayyash, is also subject to sanctions and his family was wiped out in an apparently targeted Israeli air strike. Whether the attack was aimed at him, or the Israelis knew he wasn't home but wanted to punish him by killing his family anyway, I wouldn't like to guess.
I thought it was understood that most of what you report proves later to be lies. You know, off, mass rape hoax, etc.
I personally knew 2 rape victims, and we have evidence and testimony of so much more. Even the bias UN recognized that fact. Repiting a lie a thousand times won't make your claim true.
[/QUOTE]What I thought it was understood I meant was, in principle, if Hamas killed traitors who aided Israel in its genocide against the Palestinians, that that is pretty standard and it is the right thing to do. This is not a commentary on the facts of the case of which I know nothing. [/QUOTE]
What about killing people who only who just protested them?
Or were affiliated with an organization other than Hamas?
Or simply wanted to escape the Strip and start a life somewhere else? [/QUOTE]
The political philosophy of Hamas is not something in which I'm particularly interested. Hamas is resisting evil fascists of Israel who are trying to kill and displace Palestinians, and who display daily acts of unspeakable horror against Palestinians only because they are not Jewish. The main thing about Hamas is they are against that and are fighting and dying to stop it and that is admirable.
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unfortunately, I've been proven right about the proliferative existence of people like yourself. They are all over the place, little Nazis in waiting, little cowards who just wait for a fascist movement to enable them to gang up on people and commit twisted atrocities against them.
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/ret...
‘Retaliation has begun’: Anti-Hamas protest leader tortured and executed by Hamas
Ah, we're doing this again. This is what Sinwar was very good at.
Even the bias UN recognized that fact
no, in the last detailed report they said the opposite.
I do appreciate that the same people who are faux outraged that foreign nationals in the US are being deported on specious evidence of supporting Hamas; just completely take Hamas as their word that people they torture and murder were collaborators (with no evidence at all) and therefor got what they deserve.
It really just emphasizes just how bad faith actors like Victor and Deuces are; and how eager they are to lick fascist boots with the best of them, as long as it is their fascists of choic
I feel like authoritarianism is one of those things everyone is secretly for they just want to play by their set of rules.
The top comment in this subreddit for “what’s something everyone can agree on”
Was:
“Everyone else is stupid”
It’s so universally true but it highlights my point on how everyone is secretly an authoritarian dictator if they got their way.
Does anyone really want a bunch of idiots running around doing whatever they want? You have to have rules just my set of rules.
I personally knew 2 rape victims, and we have evidence and testimony of so much more. Even the bias UN recognized that fact. Repiting a lie a thousand times won't make your claim true.
Well you should give their names and their evidence (just playing along here we both know you are just saying things you wish were true) to the Israeli prosecutor handling the (phantom) allegations because he said there was no evidence of any rapes on Oct. 7th. I'm sure there is a link in here to that article ITT but you could verify this in 30 seconds with a google search.
The fact that we can't agree on something verified by Israeli's own prosecutors means you aren't debating in good faith. You are just wanting to destroy communication itself because you just want the slaughter of an ethnicity you hate and you know good faith communication can be a barrier to that. Nothing you say therefore has any weight or interest whatsoever. You're only here because you are too scared to go do the evil you advocate.
Blue also told us that he knew of a hostage that was pregnant due to rape. hes maybe not the most reliable.
they have just complete impunity to murder people.
oh and this thread has already deemed this "fake news".
they have just complete impunity to murder people.
oh and this thread has already deemed this "fake news".
Of course it is fake news. According to the story, the IDF gave permission for Hamas to retrieve 14 bodies of aid workers they supposedly executed in cold blood, and then buried with their hands tied. Which makes zero sense they would do.
Even Mondoweiss admits they have zero evidence any of this occurred, and they are relying on secondhand information provided to them by Hamas.
Israel has made it clear that the days of aiding and supplying Hamas under the cover of compromised international humanitarian channels is more or less over.
Even if you take the most brain dead western propaganda side it still equates to excessive force apartheid and some 21st century “colonialism”. That’s literally best case scenario for Israel.
Of course it is fake news. According to the story, the IDF gave permission for Hamas to retrieve 14 bodies of aid workers they supposedly executed in cold blood, and then buried with their hands tied. Which makes zero sense they would do.
Even Mondoweiss admits they have zero evidence any of this occurred, and they are relying on secondhand information provided to them by Hamas.
Which makes zero sense they would do.
no it makes a lot of sense. many Israel soldiers like to do murder. they esp make it a point to murder paramedics, doctors, nurses, and civil workers. they have been doing it for over a year in multiple countries. its a very effective way to destroy a society and do genocide.
also, these guys are psychopathic Supremacists and Extremists. they clearly enjoy this ****. its all over Hebrew social media and Telegram.
Even if you take the most brain dead western propaganda side it still equates to excessive force apartheid and some 21st century “colonialism”. That’s literally best case scenario for Israel.
The best case scenario for Israel is having Trump in the presidency which gives them full reign to end the conflict on their terms. You think Donald is going to tell them they are using excessive force? This isn’t a trial in the US lmao.
The Western far left is really something. They rail against American global influence but then at the same time want the entire world to march to their tune.
Blue also told us that he knew of a hostage that was pregnant due to rape. hes maybe not the most reliable.
Was he happy about it? Because by convention that would be a Jewish child. This whole genocide was motivated by demographic concerns. Maybe if they just sent scores of Israeli women into the Palestinian territories to get impregnated, since the Israeli men obviously aren't getting the job done, the offspring would be Jewish and then the whole racism problem solved!
Young Israeli men aren't getting that job done because they're too busy raping and murdering Palestinians.
Israel’s birth rate is very high for a developed nation. Another swing and another miss for the fascist Hamas supporters. You guys should really try to attack Israel from a factual basis. The constant lying, hyperbole and gross misuse of words isn’t convincing anyone.
The Haaretz article is paywalled, but I’m sure you’re all subscribed to your favorite Israeli news source.
even the UN admits it
its standard for Israel to use wounded and dead people as bait to lure paramedics so they can be massacred.
Israel’s birth rate is very high for a developed nation. Another swing and another miss for the fascist Hamas supporters. You guys should really try to attack Israel from a factual basis. The constant lying, hyperbole and gross misuse of words isn’t convincing anyone.
Saying birth rates are higher than average for a developed nation isn't saying much. The birth rates are lower than that of Palestinians and that has long been seen as a looming threat by Israeli genocide planners. So in a very real, accurate sense the Israeli dudes, despite their fascistic need to outnumber Palestinians and having way better conditions from which to outbreed them, have failed to do so.
What an insult to add to the already beyond scummy Israel brand. You're too impotent and dickless to outbreed people in dire straights of captivity so you just start mass killing them. Don't take your lack of virility out on innocent people. Is this what the Israeli "soldier" is thinking when he has a toddler in his scope? He is jealous because he couldn't get the pathetic shard between his legs to stand at attention the night before? What a sad group of lowlifes.
The first line says that there was a pattern of sexual violence, what are you on about?
