Israel/Palestine thread
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Offing a two year old, miles away because its someones interpretation of a future terrorist is textbook terrorism.
First off, we don't actually know if the tweet in question was referring to the death of a 2 year old, and if it is we have no idea if the tweeter actually knew this at the time he made the tweet.
Second, this person is just a social media influencer, with no position in the govt or access to operational details. So we have no clue who the actual target was in the attack where the alleged 2 year old was killed; although I for one would be very surprised if a 2 year old was the target.
First off, we don't actually know if the tweet in question was referring to the death of a 2 year old, and if it is we have no idea if the tweeter actually knew this at the time he made the tweet.
Second, this person is just a social media influencer, with no position in the govt or access to operational details. So we have no clue who the actual target was in the attack where the alleged 2 year old was killed; although I for one would be very surprised if a 2 year old was the target.
I'm pretty confident that the two year old wasn't the initial target - but who knows. My point is that the assumption that any future gazan is a potential terrorist should somehow warrant, or downplay the death of a two year old, isn't exactly the act of bravery that those may think it is.
from just a few weeks ago https://archive.ph/d1LC6
from Aug https://archive.ph/qcAQd#selection-2383....
just following orders https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-sol...
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/middleeas...
from Oct https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/world...
and ofc, who can forget from Israeli media https://www.ha-makom.co.il/idf-human-shi...
https://www.ha-makom.co.il/1057919-2/
I would imagine they execute most afterwards like in the above cases.
Nobody could ever be impressed by someone who effectively instantly dismisses all points contrary to what he believes, even after his enemies patiently and politely cite their work and provide context. And when the only thing this person ever brings in return are these one-liner "Just Asking Questions" style contrarian nitpicks?
I don't have enemies on the internet Karl, so I don't regard vic as one.
I'll define your word after you accept that Israel is committing a genocide according to the typically accepted definition of that word (which, fwiw, I've already conclusively and fully demonstrated ITT)
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I would imagine they execute most afterwards like in the above cases.
There is only one article that deals with the claim of an explosive device being trapped on Gazan civilians.
With all due respect, one reporter, from a very insignificant website, wrote an article that everyone denies happened, that there is no supporting evidence and that I myself have never heard of anything similar.
The Mosquito Procedure is also not accurate, but whatever. Even when we used Palestinians, we never trapped them with any explosives and we certainly did not execute anyone. Even there, they were not executed, but were shot by another force due to a mistake in identification.
this is stupid
Right just a mistake. Just a little oopsie daisy.
Anyway at least you are admitting that you guys are enslaving people.
is this the first time someone has admitted to doing war crimes on 2p2?
probably not tbh, but its def not something that happens every day.
so Israel beheaded another baby today. well, the thats the one we saw. tbh they probably beheaded a bunch more that didnt make it on video.
I was in the service when the "Neighboר procedure" was still in effect, before our Supreme Court overturned it. So here's another "confession."
Want another one - we use bullets prohibited by the Geneva Convention, mines, cluster bombs, and more. All of these are also "war crimes," and there's another confession for you.
I have another one - we once shot a dog in Jenin because it barked at us and almost gave us away.
I could go on and on. You won't find a single soldier who served as a combatant who was actually in operational activity and didn't commit a "war crime."
In your eyes, there's a confession here. In my eyes, you're a privileged person who has never had to deal with a reality that's not all bubbles and roses.
So we can at least agree that the ICJ is correct to issue arrest warrants for netanyahu
In my eyes, you're a privileged person who has never had to deal with a reality that's not all bubbles and roses.
this is true. I was definitely privileged with enough morality that I didnt decide to join a genocidal army and commit war crimes for fun and profit.
I am also privileged enough that I wasnt born in the path of expansionist ethnosupremacist extremists.
I was in the service when the "Neighboר procedure" was still in effect, before our Supreme Court overturned it. So here's another "confession."
Want another one - we use bullets prohibited by the Geneva Convention, mines, cluster bombs, and more. All of these are also "war crimes," and there's another confession for you.
I have another one - we once shot a dog in Jenin because it barked at us and almost gave us away.
I could go on and on. You won't find a single soldier who served as a comba
This creep is truly a demon amongst demons. Change the proper nouns and you'll find SS officers who said this same thing he wrote above.
Why is a literal murderer allowed to freely post in a manner in which he attempts to justify said murder (and the murders committed by his friends/fellow death squad members)? Now, fortunately, he's a shitty writer and not a particularly intelligent person, so he's unlikely to ever actually CONVINCE anybody of anything, but that possibility shouldn't even have to come into play.
killing people while following the law of your own country isn't murder.
It really shouldn't be a pertinant detail but the BBC says...
I dont doubt with the inctreasly horrific Israel regime that whatever they said would be unacceptable to it. What isn't?
It was a parliamentary delegation organised by interested NGOs, which is usual.
The Council for Arab-British Understanding and Medical Aid for Palestinians - the latter of which is a registered UK charity - said in a joint statement that they had organised the trip.
"This visit was part of that long-standing programme," they said.
"When questioned, the group was clear, open and transparent about the aims and objectives of the visit, which included visiting a range of projects run by humanitarian and development organisations operating in the West Bank.
"The group had informed the UK consul general in Jerusalem of their visit and was planning to meet with them as part of the itinerary."
The two Labour MPs, Mohamed and Yang, suspect Israel's 'hate speech' claim relates to things they have said in the House of Commons.
In February, Mohamed initiated a cross-party letter, signed by 61 MPs and lords, calling for a ban on goods from Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory, citing an opinion from the International Court of Justice (ICJ).
She has also criticised Israel for withholding humanitarian aid from Gaza, telling the House of Commons in October that international law "prohibits the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare", and has mentioned humanitarian organisations' claims of "ethnic cleansing" in Gaza.
In January, Yang spoke in favour of bringing sanctions against Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, after they suggested building Israeli settlements in northern Gaza to encourage Palestinians to leave.
She has also highlighted the dangerous conditions journalists and medical professionals face while in the Palestinian territory.
Kemi Badenoch has made one of her odd missteps by going 'Yay Israel! Ban 'em! Ban 'em!' which is not something a British parliamentarian should really say in the circumstances.
It was the ICC. Orban's Hungary, which is going quite fascist, welcomed Netanyahu this week and announced that it will quit the ICC on the grounds that it has become a 'political court'. But it always was a political court, since it exists to bring politicians to book (an idea that clearly makes Orban uncomfortable).
I suppose discussing the details of particular atrocities further exposes the character and nature of the state of Israel. Maybe there is value in that but it seems almost like beating a dead horse. At some point we have to confront the truth of the situation, that there is an evil force in the world of the same nature as the Nazis, derived from their very victims. Only now there is no countervailing force willing to stop it. The entirety of the meaningful opposition to this evil is borne by the Houthis. Who else is really doing anything? World opinion is converging against Israel, but that seems to have little real effect.
Now that the entire Western world is corrupted by heavy Zionist influence, this Israeli ethnic cleansing of Arabs, like seemingly everything else in the world, will not ever end. If they succeed in ethnically cleansing the Palestinians they will proceed to establish "greater Israel" which will be an evolving concept. In fact they are already expanding into new territory in Syria (totally unopposed by HTS lol). The Western world will never admit what this is or hold anyone accountable. Imagine an alternative history where the Nazis won. Do you think they even ever talk about the destruction of the Jews? not a chance.
Prediction is a dangerous game, but I would say where they might mess up is starting a hot war with Iran. Iran has the capability to destabilize Saudi Arabia, maybe other Gulf states. If that happens and any populist movements come into power those states could join the Houthis in forming an Arab coalition against the Zionist fascists. Of course, that would also wreak havoc on the world economy. I don't know why Israel would trade it's current problems with Iran for that problem set, but it looks like that is what they are going for. I think they are putting all their chips in the middle and lobbying that we nuke Iran for them or somehow facilitate their nuking Iran which maybe they think will preempt all or most of the counter measures Iran can employ which would make us miserable. That would be unpopular, but what is AOC or Pelosi going to say about it? They will vote for it if they could because they are owned by Zionists. World population will be super pissed but what will they actually do given that we've seen the cowardice of the world on full display with the Houthis shaming the entire world.
Many of the SS atrocities and of the mass killings in concentration camps weren't actually legal under nazi germany law though
But you'll be aware that Kesselring was convicted (though he got an early medical release) for a reprisal massacre in Italy which the German state clearly had no problem with.
there is a video of this kid with no legs and no head.
when the Dems were protesting yesterday, remember that they support dismembering children just as much as the Repubs. this is what our culture stands for.
Hamas doesnt do that bc they know that Israel targets paramedics and aid workers more than anyone else.
regardless, yes unequivocally any means necessary is morally justified to fight against these monsters.
