Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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hez asking iran to intercede suggests that they haven't quite fully understood the power dynamics of their relationship. the master does not risk his neck for the sake of the puppet
War? Tt's just Israel just killing defenseless civilians. There needs to be some greater symmetrical sense to a conflict to call it a war. If I crush an ant did I battle it? That's what you sound like, depicting the wholesale slaughter of innocent people as a war.
You really don't know you're surrounded by absolute lunatics until they have occasion to safely endorse ethnic cleansing without any negative social consequences for themselves.
Oh yeah bro just smol bean Hezbollah and Hamas minding their own business. You got it all figured out brother. Israel is just killing people for no reason because they’re bloodthirsty genociders.
I’m sure you can name a single country that would allow Oct 7th and constant barrage of rockets starting from Oct 8th and just do absolutely nothing about it. They’re just insignificant little ants and not political and military leaders within their respective states launching terrorist attacks and rockets at Israel, no big deal.
If you’re talking about the article that Bill Haywood linked, the relevant US agency seems to be the State Department, which concluded that Israel was not blocking aid.
The agencies mentioned in the article were relevant as in closest to the action and had the most expertise on the matter. The State Department is relevant in the sense that they’re the final word and can just ignore facts they don’t like from other agencies. If you want to be charitable, you can argue that they did so with the belief that they could pressure the Israelis into improving their behavior but that doesn’t mean they determined they weren’t blocking aid.
the Pro-Publica article lays a pretty good case that the State Department broke the law. but we all know how pro-Israel people feel about law.
“Rules based order” for thee but not for me.
Okay spin doctors, what's the justification for flattening mile after mile of the West Bank?
Building support services for when they flatten the coastal areas for beachfront property?
The Israeli Resistance against Iran's
Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs
By now we all know about the clock in Iran ticking down to 2040, the year they swear to end Israel by. You know, actual genocide.
But the Israeli Resistance always manages to do one thing when everyone least expects it: surprise the enemy with just how much backbone it has.
Being completely surrounded by forces who want to vanish you is our history. That's our shared trauma. And tbh many Israelis have nowhere else to go. That IS home. Being anti-zionist is a form of hatred, because Israel IS HERE. It's not just a theoretical concept to be debated. It's a country like all the others in the Middle East, that has a right to security and prosperity.
So the Israeli Resistance will make Israel safe for Israelis (of all kinds).
Finding out, is a choice.
Okay spin doctors, what's the justification for flattening mile after mile of the West Bank?
in all honesty, they are just making it easier to plant IEDs and ambushes. its military vandalism but it actually makes soldiers less safe.
so just mass killing for the sake of it that achieves nothing. whats the new meme? the point of a system is what it does.
"...I urge all of us to use the leverage we have to press Iran to stop fueling escalation – whether the Houthis, Hezbollah, in Iraq or in the West Bank. We also look to the West Bank to ensure violence against innocent Palestinians stops. That, too, is critical," Blinken added.
The balls on this guy.
Israel's Far-right Channel 14 Has Called for Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza More Than 50 Times
In a letter to Israel's Attorney General, three Israeli organizations compiled a list of calls for genocide in Gaza made on the right-wing Channel 14 alongside more than 150 statements calling for war crimes against Palestinians, including indiscriminate killing, mass expulsion and starvation
probably had a cruise missile in the trunk
Resistance is still taking out invaders with highly coordinated and mission appropriate technology.
but this video (where they successfully took out a tank and bulldozer from close range) shows the genocidal destruction on Rafah.
it just just reminded me of Biden's red lines
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The Resistance lol that is so cringe. Also mods can there be some type of rule against posting a headline without posting the actual article? Because that sort of post is just complete useless twitter brainrot.
its an NPR headline. its not hard to find the article. Im sure you could do it. or cry to the mods I guess.
Quite a while ago. Israel has been formally allied to Egypt and Jordan for a long time, and informally allied to Saudi Arabia for a few years too. The enemy now is Iran and its proxies, but it's militarily impossible for the proxies to overcome Israel, and Iran is clearly wary of open direct conflict with said US-backed regional nuclear power. Meanwhile it's the Israelis who say they want to 'vanish' the Palestinian Arabs whose land they keep appropriating by violence and intimidation.
Yeah let Israel make itself safe by destroying the rest of the world .
The agencies mentioned in the article were relevant as in closest to the action and had the most expertise on the matter. The State Department is relevant in the sense that they’re the final word and can just ignore facts they don’t like from other agencies. If you want to be charitable, you can argue that they did so with the belief that they could pressure the Israelis into improving their behavior but that doesn’t mean they determined they weren’t blocking aid.
I was just stating what was said in the article. Yes, it did mention that the 2 agencies had the most direct experience with aid agencies but didn’t expound on it much. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with how you interpreted the article, but ultimately the one dissenting agency backed down for unspecified reasons. Israel is surely blocking some amount of aid because ultimately, large portions of it end up in Hamas hands and not with the people it’s intended for. Unfortunately, it’s not a black and white situation and getting aid to the right people requires some amount of force and effort to remove Hamas, who are the number one obstacle to getting aid to the Palestinians who need it.
