Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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what is it trying to accomplish Dun? you left that part out.


by Victor k

what is it trying to accomplish Dun? you left that part out.

Stop the perverse incentive structure where foreign aligned militias are allowed to wage a forever war against Israel.


by Dunyain k

Stop the perverse incentive structure where foreign aligned militias are allowed to wage a forever war against Israel.

Ansar Allah stopped their blockade the moment the ceasefire went into effect. seems thats a good incentive that actually works. but I do understand why stopping the genocide is not really a viable option for the White Supremacist Empire.

but then Israel decided to starve millions of people and they gave like a 5 day ultimatum until the blockade of Israeli only ships would be reimplemented.

this whole idea of submit or die is the perverse incentive structure. people realize that submission is much worse than fighting back. look at Ukraine. look at the liberal activist in ICE jail.

we can hope that Yemen will extend the blockade to all Western shipping. and bomb the **** out of Saudi's oil. if they can. I am still a Western Supremacist and am skeptical of their capabilities.


by Victor k

Ansar Allah stopped their blockade the moment the ceasefire went into effect. seems thats a good incentive that actually works. but I do understand why stopping the genocide is not really a viable option for the White Supremacist Empire.

but then Israel decided to starve millions of people and they gave like a 5 day ultimatum until the blockade of Israeli only ships would be reimplemented.

this whole idea of submit or die is the perverse incentive structure. people realize that submission is

There are over 6 million Palestinians in the diaspora outside the West Bank and Gaza who "submitted," and they are all doing much better than the ones still waging their forever war to conquer Israel. In the US, Palestinians are recognized as being extremely high SES on average. Similarly, the hundreds of thousands of Arab Jews who were collectively punished, and had to "submit" and leave for places like Israel, Canada and the US are also doing very well. Certainly better than if they were waging a forever war to take back their property they were run out of.

Reality seems to pretty much be the opposite of what you argue.

Speak for yourself. I certainly dont hope for a major Arab war that would get millions killed for no good reason. I am not sure what a giant war that would get millions of Arabs killed would accomplish, other than amusing you. But maybe from your perspective, millions killed for your amusement is a fair trade.


As I said before, the Nakba of Arab Jews who were collective punishment for Israel (which they mostly had nothing to do with) was objectively just as big as that of the Palestinians. Time to call it even and move on.

The Jews "submitted" and are doing as well as can be expected, probably better. Many Palestinians submitted and are also doing fairly well. Some refused, and this is now their reality.


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