Moderation Questions

Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

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by Didace k

I would think, that as a hard-core libertarian, you would believe everybody's protection should be self-provided. What's with the society bullshit?

I am not anarchic, i am mini-archist, i am ok with the existence of a skeletal state with basic functions, among which the main one is actually protection from violence (foreign and domestic).

I am a normal classic liberal, i have to use the libertarian label just because "conservatives" today tend to be to the far left on the "state power axis" of what they were 150 years ago.


It's so stupid to keep insisting state power = left.


by Luciom k

I am not anarchic, i am mini-archist

You want MASSIVE increases in the power and scope of the federal prison system, you're not any flavor of a "minimal government" guy.


Almost all the conservatives and nationalists claim to be libertarians these days.

To them it it sounds better than "I want to big daddy government to spank us when we misbehave".

A lot of leftists want that too, but they're not in the closet about it. Also, they insist on safewords.


by tame_deuces k

Almost all the conservatives and nationalists claim to be libertarians these days.

They called themselves "socialists" in the 30's. Flagrantly lying about you politics is necessary when your politics are abominable and misanthropic.


by tame_deuces k

Almost all the conservatives and nationalists claim to be libertarians these days.

To them it it sounds better than "I want to big daddy government to spank us when we misbehave".

A lot of leftists want that too, but they're not in the closet about it. Also, they insist on safewords.

I wish they did but no they don't, and you are lying through your teeth saying that.

Only a small percentage of conservatives want a complete abolition of the welfare state in all it's forms.


by Luciom k

I wish they did but no they don't, and you are lying through your teeth saying that.

Only a small percentage of conservatives want a complete abolition of the welfare state in all it's forms.

Rand Paul, like Javier Milei, is a religious nut who basis his political positions on idiotic ideas like two cells having a soul. Hardly anyone is really a libertarian and certainly the border, cop and prison loving people aren't.


Just amazing that someone who worships state power, who thinks that citizens have an obligation to obey, that dissent is treason....calls himself a libertarian. As long as there's no Social Security or Medicare in Oceania, then Big Brother counts as a libertarian.


by Luciom k

Only a small percentage of conservatives want a complete abolition of the welfare state in all it's forms.

Possibly the larger percentage are worried about the resulting social unrest which would see them lose power and raise the spectre of Communism.


by 57 On Red k

Possibly the larger percentage are worried about the resulting social unrest which would see them lose power and raise the spectre of Communism.

Yeah, social welfare wasn't pioneered by Otto Von Bismarck because he was a bleeding heart.


by microbet k

Rand Paul, like Javier Milei, is a religious nut who basis his political positions on idiotic ideas like two cells having a soul. Hardly anyone is really a libertarian and certainly the border, cop and prison loving people aren't.

How many cells do you think it takes?

No ghosts in the microbet machine?


You know, Twitter and its extended family of misfits has almost killed short-spoken wit, because it has become largely about preaching to the choir.

But this...

by microbet k

Yeah, social welfare wasn't pioneered by Otto Von Bismarck because he was a bleeding heart.

...this is fantastic.


by Luckbox Inc k

How many cells do you think it takes?

No ghosts in the microbet machine?

I'm not sure what you are really asking and a real discussion on abortion is impossible here, so I'll just take this question at pretty much the most simple way I can take it and...of course there's no such thing as a soul.


t_d,

ty!


by microbet k

Yeah, social welfare wasn't pioneered by Otto Von Bismarck because he was a bleeding heart.

lol at Bismarck, the praefectus annonae happened 2 millennia before.

Still not the model I want for society.

if you are blackmailed by violent threats unless you give your stuff the answer is to kill the blackmailers, not to pay.


Typical Trump supporter - complete psychopath.



Anyone else getting this for the trump thread and literally nothing else?


by microbet k

I'm not sure what you are really asking and a real discussion on abortion is impossible here, so I'll just take this question at pretty much the most simple way I can take it and...of course there's no such thing as a soul.

Maybe or maybe not. Possible we're in simulation or something.

Materialism though is dead.


by Luckbox Inc k

Maybe or maybe not. Possible we're in simulation or something.

Materialism though is dead.

A simulation makes the most sense to me. If there was a God and he was good things wouldn't look the way they do here. Somebody created this and it's grown organically into this chaos.

If not a simulation then us having a soul that passes from one plain of consciousness to another makes sense.


by mongidig k

A simulation makes the most sense to me. If there was a God and he was good things wouldn't look the way they do here. Somebody created this and it's grown organically into this chaos.

If not a simulation then us having a soul that passes from one plain of consciousness to another makes sense.

The moral person makes a choice, rather than looking to have the choice made for them by what “makes the most sense”.

If this world is just a simulation, then the suffering of a child in this world becomes relatively insignificant and meaningless.

That’s the choice you permit for yourself?


by Luckbox Inc k

Maybe or maybe not. Possible we're in simulation or something.

Materialism though is dead.

I must have missed this big news,

Link?


by craig1120 k

The moral person makes a choice, rather than looking to have the choice made for them by what “makes the most sense”.

If this world is just a simulation, then the suffering of a child in this world becomes relatively insignificant and meaningless.

That’s the choice you permit for yourself?

I just live my life. I have no definitive answers.


What makes the most sense is big bang, evolution, and when you're dead there's nothing.

"The moral person makes a choice"

Agree, and virtue is its own reward.


by microbet k

What makes the most sense is big bang, evolution, and when you're dead there's nothing.

"The moral person makes a choice"

Agree, and virtue is its own reward.

That doesn't really explain uncertainty or how free will works.


by mongidig k

I just live my life. I have no definitive answers.

The question: Does life in this world matter or not?

I recommend having a definitive, affirmative answer to this question. Otherwise, life will incrementally divorce itself from you without you even realizing it — you’ll just blend in with the rest of the walking dead among us.

The person who affirms life in this way has no reason to entertain the simulation idea.

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