Eat The Rich!
KS- Moved a conversation in Mod Thread about taxing the wealthy.
I don’t think you guys understand how numbers work.
If billionaires were taxed at the same rates as everyone else ALL TAXES would be covered by their contribution
Nobody else would have to pay any taxes ever.
It’s not my fault you haven’t taught yourself to understand economics and how large large numbers work
Blowjob healthcare would save the country money.
So would reparations.
Because I wasn't just talking about technology. A pessimistic forecast of most world events would have been more accurate than an optimistic Tien style la la land everything's going to be ok. Because it isn't ok and we are ****ed and it's going to take a large stroke of fortune for us to be un****ed.
Ok so in a sub-topic about ai risk assessment when contesting a person who is optimist about AI, you claim pessimists were right much more often, but you weren't talking only about technology.
You were talking what, then? Which world events?
We are in the best era that ever happened to humans, there never was a better moment to be alive (by a gigantic margin), so how exactly did the pessimist get it right more often?
The religion is the green plan idiocy of religious extremists (which btw is against gasoline cars the same), but we are going to stop that in the EU starting with the vote we are having soon.
Fyi though in the EU diesel is fiscally favourite (less penalized) to gasoline in most countries
Not an indication of how harmful it is.
Ok so in a sub-topic about ai risk assessment when contesting a person who is optimist about AI, you claim pessimists were right much more often, but you weren't talking only about technology.
You were talking what, then? Which world events?
We are in the best era that ever happened to humans, there never was a better moment to be alive (by a gigantic margin), so how exactly did the pessimist get it right more often?
Nonsense, the best ever era for humans was ~1950s to 1970s, and by a country mile, if you were a westerner. If you were a Fulani it didn't make much difference.
We will, until we don't. For any terrestrial species, especially large and needy ones like us, extinction is the norm and not the exception. Overbreeding and excessive resource consumption, leading to destabilisation of the ecosphere, tend to point towards the exit. Nature doesn't care. If we're better gone, we'll go.
The Sun will eventually swell and scorch this planet to an uninhabitable state. But we'll be long gone by then (not to another habitable planet, as Stephen Hawking fondly and absurdly imagined, but just gone and dead).
You don't know where I hang out.
A pessimistic view of the future would have been right many times more often than an optimistic view.
Wrong.
All the progress of society were done by optimists, while the pessimists sat there, whined and complained and got a free ride.
Humans are particularly good at presenting an optimistic face, failing, then claiming victory.
You either don't grasp or don't care how selfish and ruthless the billionaire club is and how much control they exert over various crucial areas of life.
It's the other way completely.
If you take all the western governments from head to toe in leadership positions, its mostly dominated by leftist / far leftist bureaucrats.
Mayors, governors, country leaders, its mostly ran by those that are against the billionaire club.
Essentially, people that produce value to society and are highly effective + efficient, don't go into politics and bureaucracy. They go into private sector endeavours.
No, the best ever era for humans was ~1950s to 1970s, and by a country mile, if you were a westerner. If you were a Fulani it didn't make much difference.
Tell that to western women and homosexuals and to anyone including white hetero men westerners who like to live 20 years longer on average.
Or dunno to those who went conscript on Vietnam.
Oh and not to mention the actual existential risk of nuclear over our head at the time (which pessimists were wrong again about, but which wasn't 0)
It's the other way completely.
If you take all the western governments from head to toe in leadership positions, its mostly dominated by leftist / far leftist bureaucrats.
Mayors, governors, country leaders, its mostly ran by those that are against the billionaire club.
Essentially, people that produce value to society and are highly effective + efficient, don't go into politics and bureaucracy. They go into private sector endeavours.
It's going to change if it didn't already. In the west coast billionaires just poured a ton of money to annihilate radical leftist candidates who wanted to insist on the "legalize theft" set of policies they had enough about for example.
But yes in general people looking for political power are inherently those who envy and despise people capable of doing wonderful and rewarding things without coercive power in their hands.
Who is further from the truth in quantitative probabilistic assessment, somebody denying anthropogenic climate change will have any effect on humanity or someone claiming it will kill every one of us? Who is objectively wrong more? Who is more anti science?
Neither are science but at least the later has a chance of being correct
This I can't but strongly disagree with, urban air pollution improved dramatically with them over gasoline engines
No, diesels produce lower emissions per mile in terms of volume, but unfortunately their compression-ignition system produces 'particulates' far more harmful to human lungs than petrol-engined emissions.
Tell that to western women and homosexuals and to anyone including white hetero men westerners who like to live 20 years longer on average.
Or dunno to those who went conscript on Vietnam.
Oh and not to mention the actual existential risk of nuclear over our head at the time (which pessimists were wrong again about, but which wasn't 0)
Women gained equal rights in the 1970s which was fantastic for them, civil rights laws in the 60s too for black people in the US. Homosexuality was legalised here in the 60s.
Nonsense, the best ever era for humans was ~1950s to 1970s, and by a country mile, if you were a westerner. If you were a Fulani it didn't make much difference.
And interesting article about when people think the good-old-days were. LINK
Let me ask the hundreds of millions of decrepit poor Chinese (majority of the population) in the 1950s and 70s what they thought about their lives then vs now.
Do the same with Indians and the rest of the poor countries around the planet that escaped 3rd world poverty situations.
My wife's side of the family was under the iron curtain during that time, poor and scrounging for potatoes.
You would honestly prefer to go back in time where a greater percentage of the world's population was poor and destitute, doing hard farm labor.... So you can feel better about your own situation.
Let me ask the hundreds of millions of decrepit poor Chinese (majority of the population) in the 1950s and 70s what they thought about their lives then vs now.
Do the same with Indians and the rest of the poor countries around the planet that escaped 3rd world poverty situations.
My wife's side of the family was under the iron curtain during that time, poor and scrounging for potatoes.
Yeah you don't creep out of not reading/understanding posts that easily.
Specifying the Fulani as an extreme example was an indication that other peoples might not find that period so rewarding, but then you probably didn't recognise that reference. I'll make sure to spell things out to you in future.
Yeah you don't creep out of not reading/understanding posts that easily.
Specifying the Fulani as an extreme example was an indication that other peoples might not find that period so rewarding, but then you probably didn't recognise that reference. I'll make sure to spell things out to you in future.
are you sure Fulani people life expectancy is approx the same it was 60 years ago? or it increased in similar ways to other people in Africa life expectancy, and they hate live far llonger lives? or what is your claim exactly?
Women gained equal rights in the 1970s which was fantastic for them, civil rights laws in the 60s too for black people in the US. Homosexuality was legalised here in the 60s.
are you sure you aren't a Trump voter who trolled the forum till now?
because the only people I ever heard talking like this are retired MAGA supporters
No, diesels produce lower emissions per mile in terms of volume, but unfortunately their compression-ignition system produces 'particulates' far more harmful to human lungs than petrol-engined emissions.
yes the famigerate PMx which we recently decided are ultra terrible because some made up models decided that.
all while life expectancy keeps growing even if people eat worse and exercise less
are you sure you aren't a Trump voter who trolled the forum till now?
because the only people I ever heard talking like this are retired MAGA supporters
Yes, quite sure thanks. Are you sure you aren't a neo-Nazi, because the only people who ever try to crowbar race or ethnicity or immigration into every conversation are fascists?
Yes, quite sure thanks. Are you sure you aren't a neo-Nazi, because the only people who ever try to crowbar race or ethnicity or immigration into every conversation are fascists?
They aren't, the entire "IDW" for example talks about those topics without being fascist.
Can you point me to any leftist sub-group which agrees with the very reactionary take of "the west was better in 1960"? i wasn't joking that's something i never heard from the anglo left at all
My mental cutoff is at around 1/10k of something happening per year (we need to simplify somehow).
But say, would you consider it existential if you are only subjugated and a few of the group survive and are able to reproduce? Because sometimes existential risk means actual complete exctinction risk, which didn't happen for many native tribes
I meant if you take a million realities , in one of them the immigrants become the existential threat and take the country over.
Would this qualify as can be an existential threat to you ? The one out of a million realities
Let me ask the hundreds of millions of decrepit poor Chinese (majority of the population) in the 1950s and 70s what they thought about their lives then vs now.
Do the same with Indians and the rest of the poor countries around the planet that escaped 3rd world poverty situations.
My wife's side of the family was under the iron curtain during that time, poor and scrounging for potatoes.
You would honestly prefer to go back in time where a greater percentage of the world's population was poor and des
I’m not the sure the entire planet ever did great as a whole at the same time .
Usually when someone doing great , someone else isn’t in some other corner of the world .
Someone income is someone else expense .
