The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
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The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance

Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.

03 February 2025 at 11:49 PM
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by Deuces McKracken m

That anybody would even utter Buttigieg's name can only be the result of a successful disorientation of the traditional Democrat voting block. This guy will never, ever...ever ever ever be elected president. Christ it's like everyone has brain worms now. This isn't even the guy you put up when you secretly want to lose because it would be too obvious you want to lose.It's like

How many Democrats have you seen go in front of a skeptical conservative audience on Fox News and get a standing ovation when he was done talking?


by biggerboat m

It's kinda hard to sift through this but I think I get it. He would make a fantastic president. He's smart as hell and speaks well. But, yeah, what I like in a president isn't necessarily who can win. Which is painfully obvious to me now.I still don't think we'll get a chance to vote for anyone at all, but I'd be interested in who of the names being tossed around do you thi

I really don't think most of you understand what we are living through right now. Buttigieg is not like you or me. He's an actor/agent. He is going to put up some kind of politician front to us while he then goes into the halls of power and make power point slides on how to rape our *******s. How people cannot see this, at this point, baffles me.

He comes from Mckenzie. Do you not understand what these people do? They regard human beings from the perspective of a scientist in the lab coat looking at ants and trying to formulate ways to make the ants carry more and heavier loads. They care about as much about your wellbeing as the scientist cares about the ant. Why would you volunteer for that? I guess I don't understand you in the same way I don't understand that guy who volunteered to be cannibalized on the dark web.


by Deuces McKracken m

I really don't think most of you understand what we are living through right now. Buttigieg is not like you or me. He's an actor/agent. He is going to put up some kind of politician front to us while he then goes into the halls of power and make power point slides on how to rape our *******s. How people cannot see this, at this point, baffles me.He comes from Mckenzie. Do you n

That's everyone who has ever held meaningful political power. Welcome to the real world.

You have to choose among them, those who you think at least vaguely will prefer for their own interest to rape other groups you and your family and friends are not part of more than your group.

That's the whole game.

If you think everyone rapes every group identically you don't vote. If you realize some people have decided their best interest is served in raping some groups more than others, you identify those who align with you and vote for them.


I think the dem candidate is going to be Newsom or Pritzker. JB is showing some charisma and the ability to cut across party lines and Newsom is a psycopath who will relish getting into the dirt with the republicans.


by jchristo m

I think the dem candidate is going to be Newsom or Pritzker. JB is showing some charisma and the ability to cut across party lines and Newsom is a psycopath who will relish getting into the dirt with the republicans.

I would also add Josh Shapiro in the conversation. Not sure the Dems would select a Jew though


by jchristo m

I think the dem candidate is going to be Newsom or Pritzker. JB is showing some charisma and the ability to cut across party lines and Newsom is a psycopath who will relish getting into the dirt with the republicans.

I guess it could happen, but the Dems would really go down the road with Gavin Newsom, another candidate that will have no appeal in the Rust Belt states needed to win the general election and will get bludgeoned in ads as a "California liberal?"


by Bored5000 m

I guess it could happen, but the Dems would really go down the road with Gavin Newsom, another candidate that will have no appeal in the Rust Belt states needed to win the general election and will get bludgeoned in ads as a "California liberal?"

did you see him dumpster DeSantis for fun? Newsom is a bully and that obviously appeals to a lot of people lol


Aghh the Dems this few weeks
Standing up for MS 13 and the Venezuelan gangs
Used to mandate electric cars now burning them


by lozen m

Aghh the Dems this few weeks
Standing up for MS 13 and the Venezuelan gangs
Used to mandate electric cars now burning them

wat?


by biggerboat m
by lozen m

Aghh the Dems this few weeks
Standing up for MS 13 and the Venezuelan gangs
Used to mandate electric cars now burning them

wat?

I think he means not letting the government declare someone is a gang member and then disappearing them into forced labor camps in a country they have never been to and have committed no crime in.

Like sure, if they're not law-abiding, then deport them, but the rule of law, that is, having the government provide evidence of its assertions, is how you determine if someone is law-abiding. Otherwise, anyone can de facto be disappeared


by Huehuecoyotl m

I think he means not letting the government declare someone is a gang member and then disappearing them into forced labor camps in a country they have never been to and have committed no crime in.

Any noncitizen can in war, that's the law in the USA, and an uncontroversial (constitutionally) one. Fact is the same law allows the same treatment of noncitizens by government during "incursions" or "invasions" even if no war is declared, and it's unclear who decides if an incursion or invasion is occurring or not for the law to be usable.

Usually courts defer to the executive on those deliberations but it's not mandatory for them to do so, so it's being litigated.

Now i feel like you THINK noncitizens have the same full rights citizens have and it's "obvious" for that to be the case, but no, the constitution doesn't give them the same rights. Case law does give them some rights but not the same full protections citizens enjoy.

You can dislike that as much as you want but you cannot conflate a denial of rights to noncitizens with anything related to actual citizens, as the 2 set of people under the law are not the same at all.


by lozen m

Aghh the Dems this few weeks
Standing up for MS 13 and the Venezuelan gangs
Used to mandate electric cars now burning them

We have zero evidence that "dems" are burning Teslas

You know that DOGE is firing more than just dems, right?

You know the only evidence "dems" are doing this is Elon going on ketamine induced paranoid rants about dark money, Ukraine, and terrorists, right?

Also, this general idea that "dems" hate EVs because they don't like Tesla is a bit ******ed when you think about how many EV options are available other than just Tesla

Ioniq 5 sales are absolutely booming right now


by coordi m

We have zero evidence that "dems" are burning TeslasYou know that DOGE is firing more than just dems, right?You know the only evidence "dems" are doing this is Elon going on ketamine induced paranoid rants about dark money, Ukraine, and terrorists, right?Also, this general idea that "dems" hate EVs because they don't like Tesla is a bit ******ed when you think about how many EV

Yeah and it wasn't republicans at Jan 6th .


by Luciom m

I wasn't talking about rights per se, the point of the rule of law is to determine truth though evidence, not assertions from the government. Your first post was about Democrats defending Venezuelan gangs. Now it turns out, not only do you not know if they're gang members, you specifically don't want to know.


by lozen m

Yeah and it wasn't republicans at Jan 6th .

I'd be shocked if they were "dems" attacking Tesla dealerships physically. They probably are on the left but absolutely hate the dems. Only one party has been taken over by a monoculture of extremism.


by lozen m

Yeah and it wasn't republicans at Jan 6th .

I mean, it was openly Republicans. Republicans happily claimed Jan 6th.


Quit deleting my posts ****face.


by BGnight m

Quit deleting my posts ****face.

Stop posting dogshit, ******.


by BGnight m

Quit deleting my posts ****face.

Oh sorry i thought you deleted it yourself in the other thread. That was hilarious, he did you a favor.


by MrDavitWilliam m

Stop posting dogshit, ******.

Quit calling me the N word. I am African American fwiw.


by jchristo m

I'd be shocked if they were "dems" attacking Tesla dealerships physically. They probably are on the left but absolutely hate the dems. Only one party has been taken over by a monoculture of extremism.

For the same reason I didn't think Mangione was a Lesftist I don't think anyone on the Left is attacking Tesla dealerships. People on the Left, and most all Democrats, do not actually like do things. They sit around and criticize things, but they don't and have no plans to physically oppose anybody. There are small exceptions and the exceptions are growing as the general opposition to the ruling regime expands, but Lefties would need all their treats taken away and be beaten down to nothing before they actually did anything. There are exceptions, but it's a good bet anyone burning down a Tesla dealership are anti-Elon MAGA.


by Luciom m

That's everyone who has ever held meaningful political power. Welcome to the real world.You have to choose among them, those who you think at least vaguely will prefer for their own interest to rape other groups you and your family and friends are not part of more than your group.That's the whole game.If you think everyone rapes every group identically you don't vote. If you re

I reject that model of the political world and I hope more people will have the stones to join me soon.


by Huehuecoyotl m

ICE’s accusations were based on two things. First, Barrios has a tattoo on his arm of a crown sitting atop a soccer ball that, federal immigration authorities allege, “is proof of gang membership.” In reality, Tobin wrote, the tattoo was inspired by the Real Madrid soccer team, which is also circular in shape and features a crown. Second, Barrios posted a photo of himself on social media in which he’s gesturing with both hands, with his middle fingers down. This, federal agents claimed, was also proof of gang membership—except that Barrios’ hand gesture actually means “I love you” in sign language and is also commonly used as a symbol of rock ’n’ roll.

This implausible misinterpretation of benign tattoos is a common theme across migrants caught up in this unlawful scheme. ICE alleged that another individual, known as E.V., was a member of Tren de Aragua based on his tattoos—which feature “anime, flowers, and animals, ” as well as a crown of thorns. Agents reportedly believed that the crown indicates gang membership. But as his lawyer explained, it is in fact “a tribute to his grandmother, ” whose “date of death appears at the base of the crown.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/03/immigration-trump-news-mass-deportations-tren-de-aragua.html

I'm sure some of them are BS'ing, and I'm sure some of the immigration lawyers are being a bit too credulous, but that's why you should have some evidentiary hearing so that someone who is immigrating legally isn't being shipped off to some prison camp merely because they have tattoos. Otherwise, the de facto law is anyone who isn't a natural-born citizen could be shipped off anywhere for any reason by the President of the US, which is not the law of the United States.


by Huehuecoyotl m

I wasn't talking about rights per se, the point of the rule of law is to determine truth though evidence, not assertions from the government. Your first post was about Democrats defending Venezuelan gangs. Now it turns out, not only do you not know if they're gang members, you specifically don't want to know.

Point of the rule of law is guaranteeing certain processes for some people. Non citizens need not apply, their privilege to exist in your country can be suspended at any time for any reason and they can go back from where they came.

That's not a violation of the rule of law, rather it's a clarifying principle about who the full rule of law applies to: not "every human being", rather CITIZENS, the rest of humanity isn't the same


by Luciom m
by Huehuecoyotl m

I wasn't talking about rights per se, the point of the rule of law is to determine truth though evidence, not assertions from the government. Your first post was about Democrats defending Venezuelan gangs. Now it turns out, not only do you not know if they're gang members, you specifically don't want to know.

Point of the rule of law is guaranteeing certain processes for some pe

Yea, you're still playing hopscotch here. You said, "Democrats are supporting Venezuelan cartel members". I'm saying you have no way of knowing that. There's evidence that Trump is sending people who have immigrated lawfully to the US, and Democrats, though, in reality, it is anyone who believes in the rule of law, are saying, "That's bad. There needs to be some evidence before you label everyone a cartel member to ship them off to prison camps", not that anyone's supporting cartel members. In response to that, you say, "Actually, the President can do that", which, one, isn't true, at least not yet, and two, isn't what we were talking about.

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