Universally acclaimed art/artists...that just don't do it for you

I'm sure he'll be relieved.

1. Woody Allen is not overrated
2. He didn't do it

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Woody Allen.... hmm interesting. I like everything he did up to Annie Hall, I think that body of work is terrific. I cannot comment on the rest cos I've barely seen any, other than 3 movies, which were all good to great.... Zelig, Broadway Danny Rose and the outstanding Crimes and Misdemeanours.

Just to be clear. Woody Allen is NOT overrated. Blue Jasmine is really good.

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Agreed... but also Manhattan. that intro is to die for.

I always show this to my class when we look at editing and montage.

And can you imagine how anything but Rhapsody In Blue could work here?

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Defending Your Life is a great movie with Albert Brooks and it is in my personal top 20. I can’t stand Ann Hathaway and the acclaim she receives.

I've never seen it, but it's been on my watchlist for a while.

curious what template people use to separate the artist from the person

That can be tough... certainly when we see woody interact with teenage girls in his films, it can be cringe worthy given the light of time.
I think what I do is look at the art and not the man that produced it. Judge the work on its merit and not the person that produced it for their flawed humanity.
I know I have said before that you can not separate the man from their art... but I don't mean that in a literal sense. When I say that I mean the art will always have the elements of the man inherently and inexorably in it.

Zendaya

I just try to ignore it. It gets harder though since we know more about these clowns due to the internet and social media. I liked it better when I had no idea what "artists did or thought".

Rothko. I'm OK with contemporary art more or less. I could even hang one of his paintings in my home. They are pretty, but at the same time, I don't really see a lot of substance.

Christopher Nolan. Sort of the In N Out of filmmakers I guess. In N Out is good for fast food, but I think the people who rave about it are used to eating McDonald's and BK all the time.

Can't believe nobody else has said Bob Dylan yet.

Just in case someone is bothered by it, I think all the big me too guys I can remember are guilty, but Woody is almost certainly innocent of molesting his daughter. It's amazing that so much exculpatory evidence could exist in a he said she said case.

He did hook up with Sung-Ye when she was 20 and he was much older. She was Mia's adopted daughter, but not his. Adre Previn was her father figure. Mia found naked pictures of Sung Ye and that's how she learned. So it was pretty sleezy, but they're still married.

So feel free to enjoy his films.

Edit: Mia, on the other hand...

That is literally who the thread was made about lol.

rothko seemed simple until i tried to do it myself

Steely Dan

Just sit and look at a Rothko for awhile. I don't meditate, but looking at a Rothko feels like it, I guess.

I don't have a bucket list, but I do want to get to the Rothko Chapel if I can.

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Only a fool would say that!

I agree that Donald Fagen's solo work was terrible, however only one band could have a lead guitarist that was also a lead defense contract consultant dealing with advanced missile technologies... Jeff 'The Skunk' Baxter.

Who was also in the Doobies for a while.

Not sure they fit for "universally acclaimed,", but there's a few popular bands that will make me go across the room and switch the channel: The Doors, The Cars, Eurythmics. Others I'm not thinking of, I'm sure.

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emphatically seconded
and the doobies can be included in the same bucket

Red Hot Chilli Peppers: Really these guys are a gaggle of vile Hollywood street trash with derivative music and incomprehensible word-salad lyrics.

Basquiat: Just, whatever. IMO many who make their careers in the fine arts have reputations (and prices) which far outweigh the talent of the artist or the quality of the work. Basquiat is just the first that came to mind. Jeff Koons is another. The idea that some mish-mash that Basquiat tossed off in an afternoon while nodding on heroin is now worth $Millions$ baffles me.

Clint Eastwood (as an actor.) He had 3 gears: Neutral, Frown, and Scowl. He made some good films obviously, like Unforgiven or The Good The Bad The Ugly or Josie Wales, where his lack of expression and wooden delivery worked for him, but IMO for the most part his career as an Actor is just a bunch of violent nonsense. As a Director, IMO he has done some good work but I think his catalog is pretty uneven: A masterpiece, a couple of very good films, and and a bunch of others that are maybe not that good.