Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Yeah. Unlike twitter
I post true and verified propaganda from credible sources
Propaganda is intended to influence rather than inform, so there's that difficulty. (Admittedly a lot of mainstream media output comes under the same head, because the editorial line is dictated by corridor-creepers on the high-level staff, known at the BBC as 'black polo-necks', who think their views are impartial when they aren't, they're just conventional within that particular social group.)
you would be hard pressed to find something I have been wrong about.
UNRWA story has unraveled.
the rape story has completely unraveled, and I havent even posted the Intercept article with the translated comments from Annat where she admits the lack of evidence.
Dunyain pushed back on the idea that Israelis are firing at aid trucks and then CNN admitted.
he also questioned videos of Israelis firing on starving people gathering to get aid and well, we all saw what happened yesterday and if you think that was the first time I got a bridge in the West Bank to sell you.
I could give you lessons and why you repeatedly are not able to analyze media. First one is free, read Israeli media.
The "rape story" has only "completely unravelled" in your head as you're pretty much completely unravelled from reality.
you would be hard pressed to find something I have been wrong about.
UNRWA story has unraveled.
the rape story has completely unraveled, and I havent even posted the Intercept article with the translated comments from Annat where she admits the lack of evidence.
Dunyain pushed back on the idea that Israelis are firing at aid trucks and then CNN admitted.
he also questioned videos of Israelis firing on starving people gathering to get aid and well, we all saw what happened yesterday and if you th
You are wrong about basically everything.
Propaganda is intended to influence rather than inform, so there's that difficulty. (Admittedly a lot of mainstream media output comes under the same head, because the editorial line is dictated by corridor-creepers on the high-level staff, known at the BBC as 'black polo-necks', who think their views are impartial when they aren't, they're just conventional within that particular social group.)
yes I understand that. Personally, I try to be informed by facts and as a smart man once told me, the best propaganda is the truth.
well thats the best for me. for most people, the best propaganda is what makes them feel good. and for Israeli supporters they need to find a way to support a genocide while still feeling good about themselves. they need a find a way to blame the victims.
looks like we're in for another round of vic explaining to us that those (((women))) were lying about being raped
The guy who wants a cease fire and end of hostilities is "hateful". The guy who wants to continue a campaign that is killing children at an insane rate and deliberately starving 100s of thousands of stranded people, of whom we already know the children and babies die first, in the words of international observers, faster than they have ever seen, well that guy is smart and not hateful.
First principles bro.
Handing out aid or even allowing aid is explicitly antithetical to their goal of genocide.
The IDF is presently designing a model where they hand out aid in Gaza to make sure it can get out. Like aid hubs.
And it didn't come from outside. They created the idea internally. There's a big push to make it work.
i don't know what your point is Victor. I'm not sure you know what your point is.
Israel is denying food and aid to the population intentionally. So your post about nebulous uncited sources saying anything to the contrary is bullshit. They said they would starve the population and now they are starving the population.
I don't think the newborns and toddlers that are widdling to nothing as we speak give a **** that someone lied to you and you believed it.
Also, there was a model for distributing aid. It was called UNRWA. Israel used political pressure and lies to dismantle it because they want to starve the population.
