Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by Luciom k

can't be that, you should check the raging debate in europe even in countries with extremely low numbers of resident jews (like Italy).

The reason Pakistani politics doesn't get airtime is that you can't map it over the left-right western cultural civil war, simple as that.

Which is why Bolsonaro and Milei got a lot of airtime even if most people in the USA and the EU don't have the ****ing basic clue about Argentinian and Brasilian politics (just one example, in both cases those people don't cont

I don't think we're disagreeing except for a chicken and egg problem. I think narratives are nearly infinitely adaptable so given enough exposure I'm some someone could map a colonizer vs native narrative onto Pakistan. It does help that Western governments tend to have Western style politics of ostensibly liberal style government which makes it easier to comprehend and map, again, rightly or wrongly, onto the political situation. Liberals tend to struggle to map, say, tribal style governance onto typical western narratives.

While the narratives are reductionist, it's not hard to grasp the meta narrative that's going on. With colonizer vs native you have someone with a lot of power dominating someone who doesn't and liberalism is ostensibly is concerned with power dynamics.


by PointlessWords k

Do you have your foreskin?

I mean the thread will be shut down pretty soon I assume, but I gotta say this one is a first for me.


by rafiki k

ok I have to ask. How do you know?

It’s becomes a topic of discussion greater than 25% of the time. I asked. They told. They asked, I told. Ez pz




by rafiki k

I mean the thread will be shut down pretty soon I assume, but I gotta say this one is a first for me.

I’m sorry I didn’t know talking about natural body parts was offensive.

I guess asking someone if they are a victim of male genital mutilation is offensive. I just thought you wanted to talk about genital mutilation since you brought it up in a xenophobic manner


But seriously

Lol pointlesswords

You've reached a new low


by PointlessWords k

What was wrong? I don’t know why I got my dick sucked so much, I was just throwing out the answer I felt was correct

He asked me “why?” And I answered

Maybe I got head so much cause I was good looking and smart. Thanks tinder!

Yea but do it withput Insuling half of the USOA

You cant say that bc is is a wrong and b
Offensive to every jew and non jew.


by metsandfinsfan k

But seriously

Lol pointlesswords

You've reached a new low

I really hope thread doesn't get closed because here there is no flame war ongoing , it's just one user violating rules, everyone else talking normally.


what rule?


We could start with the rules of basic human decency


you literally asked me how I know getting my dick sucked feels better than someone who is circumsized

I answered your question and then asked you if you were circumsized which would then lead to me asking you the same idea that you asked me


Yeah but that is rich coming from the french colonizer.


I mean I wish I was circumsized and Ive been looking into getting it done. Ive had referrals already I just chickened out.

I also think maybe everyone should get it done but with anesthesia as a kid or something


by PointlessWords k

you literally asked me how I know getting my dick sucked feels better than someone who is circumsized

I answered your question

Did you?

I don't think so, but I also think I'd be baiting you here into more lunacy, so maybe don't explain.


by washoe k

Yeah but that is rich coming from the french colonizer.

Is that meant to be..... me?


by PointlessWords k

I mean I wish I was circumsized and Ive been looking into getting it done. Ive had referrals already I just chickened out.

I also think maybe everyone should get it done but with anesthesia as a kid or something

Confusion sets into the thread


actually without reading any new posts

I apologize for the comparisons and comments I made about FGM. it is not the same nor really similar to circumcision.

I was aggravated cause I saw rafiki say that fgm means countries are getting islamicized or whatever.


Also, imagine a Thai-American who's never been to Thailand saying this kind of nonsense. WE can never be safe anywhere except in OUR special Thai homeland for US. You'd think he was loopy.


by PointlessWords k

actually without reading any new posts

I apologize for the comparisons and comments I made about FGM. it is not the same nor really similar to circumcision.

I was aggravated cause I saw rafiki say that fgm means countries are getting islamicized or whatever.

I generally just assume you're trolling with the circumcision = FGM and "brown people" nonsense you post.


by Trolly McTrollson k

I generally just assume you're trolling with the circumcision = FGM and "brown people" nonsense you post.

living in ohio will do that to you

I never ever said =


by Trolly McTrollson k

Also, imagine a Thai-American who's never been to Thailand saying this kind of nonsense. WE can never be safe anywhere except in OUR special Thai homeland for US. You'd think he was loopy.

If Thai people faced high levels of discrimination around the world and had people calling for the annihilation of Thailand, it wouldn’t be that loopy.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

If Thai people faced high levels of discrimination around the world and had people calling for the annihilation of Thailand, it wouldn’t be that loopy.

so, the Philippines? they are facing existential threat from China.


by PointlessWords k

actually without reading any new posts

I apologize for the comparisons and comments I made about FGM. it is not the same nor really similar to circumcision.

I was aggravated cause I saw rafiki say that fgm means countries are getting islamicized or whatever.

We started because In Egypt, the catastrophic rise of FGM is tied directly to the rise of more radical forms of Islam. Egypt is close to a failed state, another factor heavily involved in where FGM happens. It's largely a socio-economic thing (ie more poverty means more FGM).

But there are non-Muslims who perform FGM in Africa, for example (some Christians). We just never got a chance to have a remotely civil discussion on this, and it has nothing to do with what we were discussing in Egypt (which is very clearly the rise of a much more radical form of Islam).

I would be interested in comparing economies in the countries where this form of Islam is prevalent. The ones I can think of have almost totally failed economies. But I suspect maybe there are exceptions somewhere (not my area of strength).


by PointlessWords k

so, the Philippines? they are facing existential threat from China.

I’ve never heard of anyone protesting against the Philippines existing but maybe I need to get out more.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

If Thai people faced high levels of discrimination around the world and had people calling for the annihilation of Thailand, it wouldn’t be that loopy.

Israel was created right after the mass liquidation of Jews. That we can't see this as a very simple catalyst for the acceptance of the request for statehood is pretty odd.

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