Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by metsandfinsfan k

Hamas wants to end the war while staying in power with no consequences

You don’t think the current consequences are enough?


by Victor k

the people that bombed Dresden were not inculcated with hate towards Germans (or even Nazis) for multiple generations.

its more like saying, we must respect the Native Americans circa 1850.

The allies?

The French and Brits certainly had long standing beef with the Germans. As did most of Western Europe....
The hate the world still had on for 1914-1918 was very fresh.

In the case of exactly the Americans, sure.


Seems silly to talk about rebuilding Gaza before we've even started the war with Lebanon.


by Trolly McTrollson k

Seems silly to talk about rebuilding Gaza before we've even started the war with Lebanon.

The war with Lebanon started Oct 8th. It's not for nothing that the Israeli north is totally evacuated.

You mean FINISH the war. And who knows how that plays out. We know what Iran wants out of it. Israel would be content to just have Hezbollah respect UN resolution 1701. The second they do and stop firing into Israel, that's over. Hezbollah holds those cards if they want to avert any war.


by rafiki k

The war with Lebanon started Oct 8th. It's not for nothing that the Israeli north is totally evacuated.

You mean FINISH the war. And who knows how that plays out. We know what Iran wants out of it. Israel would be content to just have Hezbollah respect UN resolution 1701. The second they do and stop firing into Israel, that's over. Hezbollah holds those cards if they want to avert any war.

as soon as Israel stops the genocide on the Gazans then Hezbollah will stop. Nasrallah (and Yemen) have been clear on this.


by Victor k

as soon as Israel stops the genocide on the Gazans then Hezbollah will stop. Nasrallah (and Yemen) have been clear on this.

Well that "theory" is going to be put to the test soon enough.


by PointlessWords k

You don’t think the current consequences are enough?

They haven't hurt hamas so no. The consequences to the gazan people suck. Gaza will be rebuilt with outside money so that doesn't hurt them

If hamas stays in power and Israel releases more prisoners the way they RELEASED SINWAR years ago, hamas won the war big time. With no consequences


by Trolly McTrollson k

Seems silly to talk about rebuilding Gaza before we've even started the war with Lebanon.

Again

Lebanon is bombing Israel as we speak

If Israel decides to invade Lebanon, which I am not in favor of, IT WOULD NOT BE ISRAEL STARTING A WAR WITH LEBANON

I know your name is trolly, but do better please


by rafiki k

Israel would be content to just have Hezbollah respect UN resolution 1701.

lol, Israel doesn't give a flying **** about UN resolutions, especially the ones telling them to stop massacring civilians. You couldn't invent a more obviously false pretext for war.

by metsandfinsfan k

If Israel decides to invade Lebanon, which I am not in favor of...

You'll be the biggest cheerleader for the next bloodbath when it kicks off. And the next.


by rafiki k

The war with Lebanon started Oct 8th. It's not for nothing that the Israeli north is totally evacuated.

You mean FINISH the war. And who knows how that plays out. We know what Iran wants out of it. Israel would be content to just have Hezbollah respect UN resolution 1701. The second they do and stop firing into Israel, that's over. Hezbollah holds those cards if they want to avert any war.

Unfortunately I think he really does mean start the war.

Trolly did Israel start the war with Hamas in late October?


Don't worry, the next murder spree will be done in the most humane manner that the world has ever seen.

Israel threatens to ‘take Lebanon back to the stone age’

Defence minister makes threat after weeks of increasing fighting between Israeli forces and the Hezbollah terror group

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2...


by Trolly McTrollson k

lol, Israel doesn't give a flying **** about UN resolutions, especially the ones telling them to stop massacring civilians. You couldn't invent a more obviously false pretext for war.

You'll be the biggest cheerleader for the next bloodbath when it kicks off. And the next.

Again stop telling me what I'll think. I'm not allowed to so you can't

And no

I've wanted hamas to surrender and this to end as i have all along

Stop misconstruing what I say

It's not allowed


by Trolly McTrollson k

Don't worry, the next murder spree will be done in the most humane manner that the world has ever seen.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2...

How many times in this thread have you condemned hezbollah for shooting rockets at isreal

There are over 1000 israelis temporary living in people houses in my community because they have been forced to leave Israel due to hezbollah bombs

Do you care? Or only care about how Israel may or may not retaliate

Why do you only care about what Israel does?

Maybe you should apply for a job at the United Nations


Tell me this isn't so?


I'm really not surprised at all that a country that pretends to find flag waving at sportsball events a "worrying display of nationalism" then forces folks to stand by their flag of choice at their desired time for their reasons. Nationalism uses projection to expand and they did it very will 80 years ago.


Metsandfinsfan and Trolly, please take timeouts from the thread until 12:00AM Eastern Time for directing derogatory posts at one another.

We’re going to learn to debate here without constantly attacking each others characters.


by metsandfinsfan k

Even if you think "israelis" aren't capable of compassion

by metsandfinsfan k

I know your name is trolly, but do better please

by metsandfinsfan k

Maybe you should apply for a job at the United Nations

by Trolly McTrollson k

You'll be the biggest cheerleader for the next bloodbath when it kicks off. And the next.

None of these comments directed at other posters are acceptable within the scope of this thread's rules. Posters are to address CONTENT, NOT EACH OTHER.


Mets’ posting content/ history gives us more than a reasonable suspicion that he will support future bloodbaths just as he supports this one


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by PointlessWords k

Mets’ posting content/ history gives us more than a reasonable suspicion that he will support future bloodbaths just as he supports this one

PointlessWords, timeout til 12 please, its enough now friends. Thank you


hate to be "that guy"

but are most posters ITT 70-30% on hamas views of things or isreals view of things?

or is it 50-50


More pro-Israeli government than against, unless there are posters who think Netanyahu should be replaced with someone even more extreme.


by jalfrezi k

More pro-Israeli government than against, unless there are posters who think Netanyahu should be replaced with someone even more extreme.

afaik most replacements: are going to be far more moderate than him no? or if moderate isn't the word you can pick a better one


by the pleasure k

hate to be "that guy"

but are most posters ITT 70-30% on hamas views of things or isreals view of things?

or is it 50-50

I think its slightly pro Israel but fairly mixed. Based on the last page of regs you got...

Leaning towards or heavily ... Team Israel: Mets, Rafiki, Dunyun, Mong, Chillrob, Luciom

Leaning towards or heavily on ... Team Hamas/Anti Israel: Vic, 72, Slighted, Jal, Trolly, PW


It also depends who you count as a regular poster eg gs hasn't posted itt for a few days, and you forgot BGP.

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