Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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As a reminder, replacement theories as well as assertions that either side does not love their children or are having children for the sole purpose of martyring them are not acceptable talking points for this thread, and will be moderated as violations of the bigotry and racism rule.
I don’t think the women have a say in anything, politics or whatever. I don’t think they are all being forcefully raped, that’s a crazy leap.
I just criticized their having more babies. Unless they are all getting raped, they do have a say in that.
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I certainly didn't say either of those things. Just that it's very irresponsible to bring babies into a war zone, and it shouldn't be at all surprising that they are starving.
As a reminder, replacement theories as well as assertions that either side does not love their children or are having children for the sole purpose of martyring them are not acceptable talking points for this thread, and will be moderated as violations of the bigotry and racism rule.
But if not for the sole purpose then it’s ok ?
I am sure under Hamas great leadership and foresight, the next few generations of Gaza children will have a great future and prospects, just as the ones before have had. And Hezbollah and Iran joining the fray will just make the future that much brighter.
#Winning
Hamas did not rip the jaw off that poor girl today. (she seemed very alive and aware of what was going on. for now at least.) they didnt torture a father to death to compel his son to turn himself in. (tell me more about hostages lol hypocrites). they didnt cut out organs from a man and send him back to his town for him to die an agonizing death. (colonialists love to steal). they didnt behead a baby. (one of many I have seen). they didnt burn alive a child and hang him from a wire. (again, one of many).
these are all pictures I have seen today.
to make a value judgement. I dont think it is normal or proper to celebrate that stuff as your team winning.
Hamas has nothing to do with those mangled kids.
but it seems that you think your team is winning by doing this. well, I just happen to believe murdering a child is almost never a military victory.
I agree. I find any analysis that describe Hamas actions on and since 10/7 (and really the last 20 years) as being effective or doing a good job as morally suspect.
What adjustments to morality have you made to account for their situation?
Oh look. Nothing much. Just one of countless videos showing Hamas torturing and beating Palestinians in the streets. As happens whenever Israel leaves an area and they crawl out from their holes. Unlike all the Israeli bad behavior that somehow is never recorded, and all we get is clear photoshopped pictures after the fact telling us what happened and "eyewitness reports."
Yes, The Palestinian people should look forward to a great, peaceful future with these guys remaining in charge.
if only they werent starving or if only there was a police and justice system.
these guys got off a lot easier than the people looking for food and supplies in the aftermath of Katrina fwiw.
ofc thats taking your tweet from a very questionable account at face value. in fact we have no idea who any of these people are or why some are beating others.
ofc thats taking your tweet from a very questionable account at face value. in fact we have no idea who any of these people are or why some are beating others.
We actually dont know that is all that happened to the people and whether they got off "lucky" by only being beaten. Who knows what happened after the video cut off. A lot of reports of Palestinians being shot/killed by Hamas when they re-assert control over an area.
And you are right. I turned the volume up and looked closer, and in retrospect it sounds like they are speaking Japanese and that is Tokyo in the background. Maybe some sort of Yakuza syndicate in action.
I dont "know" all the details. But I know something happened that matches the description, because there is clearly unaltered video.
Unlike building an entire worldview around a bunch of photoshopped pictures from paid propagandists.
no I dont think the Gazans are doing (plausible) genocide and a war of extermination. they arent starving people and killing children. weird how my accusations are based on facts and logic whereas the Israeli Hasbara is based entirely on fantasy.
no I dont think the Gazans are doing (plausible) genocide and a war of extermination. they arent starving people and killing children. weird how my accusations are based on facts and logic whereas the Israeli Hasbara is based entirely on fantasy.
"The Gazans" covers a lot of ground. But for specifically Hamas, genocide and a war of extermination is their stated goal. They haven't quite worked out how to get there. But 10/7 and their current strategy of using Palestinian children as human shields is a pretty good indication of how everything is on the table.
reminder that hamas' goal is the extermination and/or forced deportation of all jews in the 'holy land'
