2024 ELECTION THREAD
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suppressing the votes of Texan Latinos
Paxton has tipped his hand about his determination to
undercut voting rights this fall — and potentially made
an enemy of the very people the GOP needs to win.
officers who turned up at her house in the early morning last week
were looking for voter cards that Latino residents had filled out.
Finding none in their ransacking of her home, they took her laptop, her phone and other items
If his office hadn’t blocked mail-in applications ahead of the 2020 election,
“we would’ve been one of those battleground states that they were counting
votes in Harris County for three days and Donald Trump would’ve lost the election.”
No, it is not about left versus right. Any person on the right-wing or conservative is more than free abandon the current ideological leaders of US conservatism.
Not supporting Trump is in no way, shape or form the same as abandoning right-wing politics or conservatism. It is simply a rejection of its current direction.
It's hardly the first political movement to find itself under horrible leadership and demagogues, and it won't be the last.
Exactly. MAGA chodes love to act like an attack on Trump and Trumpism is an attack on conservatism in all its forms.
The vast majority of democrats don't believe the election was stolen. In principal its partly because Barr who was an avid Trump supporter made it clear there was no fraud. Also so did the head of Homeland Security. Both republicans appointed by Trump.
lol, you've never once heard someone complain that trump didn't even win the popular vote but was still president?
also, you may want to watch this where hillary straight up says that the election was stolen from her
Also, the polls were done to see if Trump was believed by people who supported him. Not in a manner to elicit results that will grab attention.
potato potahto
you misunderstood my meaning, i was talking about how he was like "the system is corrupt and i know because i'm part of it" "i don't pay my taxes i find the loopholes because i exploit the system" whereas you'll never find anyone else ever say anything remotely close to that
coordi, basically the only thing we truly fundamentally disagree upon there is whether lia thomas should be allowed to compete in women's swimming
it's incredibly dishonest for you to paint that as a matter of empathy, especially so that there is a much better argument that you lack empathy for the cisgender women who can't physically compete with a woman who was a man up until the age of 20
thanks for proving my point though, where you happily slander and denigrate fellow liberals for being evil
Yeah, just the innocent disagreement on Lia. Or wait, aren't you on the record for saying you don't think Lia is a trans person and is just living out a fetishistic/kink fantasy? Remind me again, is that just Lia or all trans people?
can't you contain the transphobia to the transphobia thread?
Yeah, just the innocent disagreement on Lia. Or wait, aren't you on the record for saying you don't think Lia is a trans person and is just living out a fetishistic/kink fantasy? Remind me again, is that just Lia or all trans people?
sad that you're back to your old blatant lying again
i see you've moved on from your lies about phresh to new lies about me
lol, you've never once heard someone complain that trump didn't even win the popular vote but was still president?
also, you may want to watch this where hillary straight up says that the election was stolen from her
The only complaints I have heard about winning the popular vote but losing the election (which now seems to be the only way Republicans can become President) is that something is wrong with how the system works. That it is giving too much power to the smaller states.
My problem with it is that campaigns are focused on swing states and not the overall population. If it were based on popular vote candidates would be campaigning in more states. Especially well populated states. That could make a bigger difference in how congress is elected and possibly some Senate races as well.
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you misunderstood my meaning, i was talking about how he was like "the system is corrupt and i know because i'm part of it" "i don't pay my taxes i find the loopholes because i exploit the system" whereas you'll never find anyone else ever say anything remotely close to that
I have never heard Trump say he doesn't pay his taxes. He hid his tax returns for years and they came out via Congress.
In terms of the system being corrupt Trump gained a lot of voters because he said he would take care of the swamp in DC. But I never heard him admitting that he was the swamp once he got there. I also don't think he has ever admitted to being corrupt.
sad that you're back to your old blatant lying again
i see you've moved on from your lies about phresh to new lies about me
That was a legitimate conversation that happened in that thread 6 months ago. If you didn't say that then I am misremembering.
The question remains, why are you supporting these people? Why are you constantly going to bat for and defending these people whos opinion is in stark contrast to your own? If you think we really just disagree on one small little thing why do you have 600 posts in that thread talking trash on trans people and trans supporters? Those are very contradictory actions.
Now go re-read those 44 posts like you are suggesting others do and try to tell me again how his opinions are moderate.
Originally Posted by Phresh
Grunching, but there is no such thing a trans and this whole garbage ideology will go down as the worst medical scandal since lobotomies (which were also used to "fix" homosexuality like gender ideology is doing). We just watched a man win gold in women's Olympic boxing and people are being brainwashed into believing he's a woman. Unreal.
Coordi has the worst opinions ever with his pitbull support. As a leopard can't change his spots, I'm sure he's on the indefensibly stupid trans side of this religion, too.
Btw, this was his original original post before it was deleted and he was banned. "garbage ideology" "worst medical scandal since lobotomies" "no such thing a trans". Very moderate. Wouldn't want to tip any scales one way or the other.
I will personally attest I have not been called a bigot for saying that people who have gone through male puberty probably shouldn’t play in professional sports. Probably because I didn’t say “men are literally beating down women and stealing their records from them!!” Sometimes your reasons/methods for believing certain things are more important than the positions you take.
The great thing about gender now is I can think today I’m a woman and beat my wife up .
It’s ok now , we are all equal between women :p .
I will personally attest I have not been called a bigot for saying that people who have gone through male puberty probably shouldn’t play in professional sports. Probably because I didn’t say “men are literally beating down women and stealing their records from them!!” Sometimes your reasons/methods for believing certain things are more important than the positions you take.
because you said it after uke said it so cordie was left alone in his position and decide to stop pushing that absolutely horrendous take.
when he did in the past there were more posters agreeing with him and moderation was a lot harsher in this specific thread.
biological men are btw hurting women in contact sports when allowed to play competitively against them, and they are stealing their records
because you said it after uke said it so cordie was left alone in his position and decide to stop pushing that absolutely horrendous take.
when he did in the past there were more posters agreeing with him and moderation was a lot harsher in this specific thread.
biological men are btw hurting women in contact sports when allowed to play competitively against them, and they are stealing their records
This isn't an accurate representation of the discussions that were had.
We all agreed that testosterone was the secret sauce. I want more data to be gathered and research to be performed. This is crucial in the edge cases of elite performance.
You just want all trans women banned from womens sports. I don't think that is fair or necessary. Especially in cases where youth transitioned before puberty.
I think using Lia as evidence that trans people are a danger to the integrity of womens sports is incredibly weak. You have one example from thousands of trans athletes and Lia wasn't even particularly dominant.
edit: I'll try to leave it here. If any more blatant lies get told I probably wont be able to ignore
This isn't an accurate representation of the discussions that were had.
We all agreed that testosterone was the secret sauce. I want more data to be gathered and research to be performed. This is crucial in the edge cases of elite performance.
You just want all trans women banned from womens sports. I don't think that is fair or necessary. Especially in cases where youth transitioned before puberty.
I think using Lia as evidence that trans people are a danger to the integrity of womens sports
Put thousands of Lia in the field and you will see no woman will win …
There is a reason testosterone is illegal in sports , because it’s very effective .
yeah nothing special at all about winning a national championship...
coordi, the mental gymnastics you'll make are wild
and i do sincerely believe you honestly attribute those things to me, that's the problem with all of this, you're so worked up that you're imagining worst case scenarios and see snakes in the grass wherever you look
Isn't there a trans thread?
Put thousands of Lia in the field and you will see no woman will win …
There is a reason testosterone is illegal in sports , because it’s very effective .
Lia wasn't on testosterone, she was in her 4th year of transition. She took the required year off, came back, and performed very poorly. This would have been when her testosterone was at its highest.
It wasn't until she was a senior (older) with 3 years of high level training that she won
Lia wasn't on testosterone, she was in her 4th year of transition. She took the required year off, came back, and performed very poorly. This would have been when her testosterone was at its highest.
It wasn't until she was a senior (older) with 3 years of high level training that she won
U know Arnold didn’t used steroids all his life , but it sure helped him throughout his life …
For the reason I already mention 1 or 2 post above I just can’t continue arguing vs this kind of discourse .
So I’ll stop , people can believe w.e they want .
Some people believe in gods too ….
Ps: it ain’t just about muscles , acquired muscle memory do not disappear , it’s about air intake bigger lungs , hearts , etc .
You can just read Phresh's posts and watch the wagons circle around his objectively bigoted view points and see that he was clearly "one of them".
There is no pro trans stance that would ever put up with Phresh's opinions, let alone support them.
Okay, so everyone is exactly like Phresh if they aren't exactly like you? I think I'm getting it now.
Okay, so everyone is exactly like Phresh if they aren't exactly like you? I think I'm getting it now.
You could read the part of my post where I said many posters supported Phresh's opinions
You don't even have to take my word for it. Its in the thread. And they all followed Phresh to ATF to back him there too.
free Phresh!
Guys you are OT, the only in topic claim is whether trans issues are relevant or not in this election.
Give when Walz was named VP candidate the left bragged about his "accomplishment" of pushing PBs, hormones and surgery on as many minors as they can Minnesota, inviting minors from other states to come for that, I think it's relevant
