2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?

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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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How much evidence do we need that the Republican party has fully fallen victim to Russian corruption?



by Gorgonian k

The tariffs on Chinese EVs are to protect American manufacturers from unfair business practices (the allegation is that China is subsidizing production to flood foreign markets). This is all easily google-able. The US is not alone in implementing these tariffs. EU has done the same for the same reason.

its unfair business practice to subsidize industries? and in particular EV industry? brb, about to google Tesla.

by rickroll k

this, ignoring stuff like ya know, treason and focusing on all the "evil policies" which the subsequent administration not only kept but reinforced and added onto

ya I mean it would be a lot better of an argument if they just said, its good when Dems do it and bad Repubs do the exact same thing.

by checkraisdraw k

I don’t see any point in discussing free trade with a communist



by Gorgonian k

The tariffs on Chinese EVs are to protect American manufacturers from unfair business practices (the allegation is that China is subsidizing production to flood foreign markets). This is all easily google-able. The US is not alone in implementing these tariffs. EU has done the same for the same reason.

To be clear, the best solution for this was a free trade policy, which Hillary was forced to stop championing due to Sanders’s weird bugaboo against free trade that was championed by the left. Absent free trade agreements, China can’t be allowed to use its anti-market policies to become the only supplier of crucial goods that are difficult to ramp up on the supply chain.

If we want reciprocal free trade, that’s one thing, but that’s not what’s happening at all.


it was Bernie's fault! playing all the hits...


by Gorgonian k

The tariffs on Chinese EVs are to protect American manufacturers from unfair business practices (the allegation is that China is subsidizing production to flood foreign markets). This is all easily google-able. The US is not alone in implementing these tariffs. EU has done the same for the same reason.

I'm no China fan but the notion their EV industry competes unfairly is ridiculous considering China wouldn't have an auto industry to compete against had the US government not bailed them out in 2008.


by checkraisdraw k

To be clear, the best solution for this was a free trade policy, which Hillary was forced to stop championing due to Sanders’s weird bugaboo against free trade that was championed by the left. Absent free trade agreements, China can’t be allowed to use its anti-market policies to become the only supplier of crucial goods that are difficult to ramp up on the supply chain.

If we want reciprocal free trade, that’s one thing, but that’s not what’s happening at all.

Free trade agreement*

can’t edit it but yeah


by pocket_zeros k

I'm no China fan but the notion their EV industry competes unfairly is ridiculous considering China wouldn't have an auto industry to compete against had the US government not bailed them out in 2008.

massive difference between private companies which are bailed out when they fail vs state owned enterprises


even the ones that are "privately held" are still only in existence because of direct government investment or interest free loans along with national policy that helps them fend off foreign competition as well as subsidies

ie lenovo is technically a private company, but it only came to existence because the chinese government was tired of buying dell and hp computers so they put together a team, gave them the money to not only startup a computer company but also enough funds to buyout IBM's laptop division so they could hit the ground running

same with huawei, which is ostensibly a private enterprise on paper, but is basically under management and control by the chinese military (started as a tool of corruption where the military realized they were going to need to spend billions modernizing everything with IT infrastructure and instead of letting someone else get rich off that they created their own company to which they would give those contracts - these days it's since grown and developed into a legit business on its own right but it's still very much an unofficial arm of the chinese military - it's to the extent that they are forbidden from doing telecom infrastructure business in the united states and other countries (fear they'd put in backdoors) and nobody who works for the us gov is allowed to own a huawei device


by checkraisdraw k

To be clear, the best solution for this was a free trade policy, which Hillary was forced to stop championing due to Sanders’s weird bugaboo against free trade that was championed by the left. Absent free trade agreements, China can’t be allowed to use its anti-market policies to become the only supplier of crucial goods that are difficult to ramp up on the supply chain.

If we want reciprocal free trade, that’s one thing, but that’s not what’s happening at all.

To be clear, I wasn't commenting on the legitimacy of it, only giving the reason for the tariff.

Just wanted anyone that is quoting me and disagreeing with something I said to know that I don't intend to try to defend the stated position on this. I was only passing it along.


i came to check in to see if the usual suspects were IRATE that twitter is throttling and suppressing the JD vance dossier thing like they were mad about the short delay in the hunter laptop bs... el0n banning the guy that posted stuff immediatley.

where my freezepeacher's at?


raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.


by Victor k

raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.

Even better, teach them to learn about the world through six-second video clips on X.


by Victor k

raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.

Kids not wrong

#lesseroftwoevils


by Slighted k

i came to check in to see if the usual suspects were IRATE that twitter is throttling and suppressing the JD vance dossier thing

couch-****er at it again? tell me more


by Rococo k

Even better, teach them to learn about the world through six-second video clips on X.

I could recommend a local library and dozens of books but I don't think you guys would read them.l.


by Gorgonian k

To be clear, I wasn't commenting on the legitimacy of it, only giving the reason for the tariff.

Just wanted anyone that is quoting me and disagreeing with something I said to know that I don't intend to try to defend the stated position on this. I was only passing it along.

To be clear, I was agreeing with you haha


by Victor k

raise your kids right. just say no to liberals.

I wonder what the kid would say about communist losers


poor kid. when i was 10 years old in 1978, if someone asked me the first word that popped into my head when i heard the name jimmy carter or ronald reagan, i would have said...

"who?"


Yeah that clip is legitimately sad and creepy and kind of ****in pathetic.

I dunno, I've had a rough week so things are weighing on me a little heavier the last few days but it just brings me great distress the current state of people our country.

There are some very very deluded people out there, and despite what some of you may think, most of them are just awful awful people on the Republican side. I'm living in a bizzaro reality


yeah that's definitely a kid who's been coached up for this appearance


Republicans have always been shameless about using their kids as props. I remember back when Prop 8 (anti-gay marriage CA prop) was up for vote, the people in favor of banning gay marriage would always use their kids to hold their signs. Sick individuals.


by checkraisdraw k

Republicans have always been shameless about using their kids as props. I remember back when Prop 8 (anti-gay marriage CA prop) was up for vote, the people in favor of banning gay marriage would always use their kids to hold their signs. Sick individuals.

bruh... have a little bit of self awareness

i've seen 10x the amount of children at protests who have no idea what they are doing than at any right wing protests


that kid is 100% coached up for the appearance but don't for a second pretend that the left never uses their children as a prop

in fact, one of the biggest leftist movements on earth has a child as their lead spokesman


if you think greta wasn't just a prop installed by adults because they thought their message would come across better then i got ocean front property in vegas to sell you


this is greta's mother

her father is an actor and her grandfather is a well known actor and director

they exploited their child's autism because they knew she'd be a better vehicle for that message, just the same way those terrible parents indoctrinated their child that kamala was a liar (which even though i agree with that, is still a reprehensible act to do to your own children)


Ya some of the religion/church stuff with kids as props comes off as really creepy especially on things related to sex.


by rickroll k

bruh... have a little bit of self awareness

i've seen 10x the amount of children at protests who have no idea what they are doing than at any right wing protests

that kid is 100% coached up for the appearance but don't for a second pretend that the left never uses their children as a prop

in fact, one of the biggest leftist movements on earth has a child as their lead spokesman

if you think greta wasn't just a prop installed by adults because they thought their message would come across better t

This whole post is speculation but assuming its true, shes still in the trenches. She wasn't just a photo op, if she was brainwashed it set deep.

But its like, Greta is pushing something positive vs children wearing "**** biden" t shirts or being coached to call people liars. Its not really comparable on a philosophical level


by rickroll k

bruh... have a little bit of self awareness

i've seen 10x the amount of children at protests who have no idea what they are doing than at any right wing protests

that kid is 100% coached up for the appearance but don't for a second pretend that the left never uses their children as a prop

in fact, one of the biggest leftist movements on earth has a child as their lead spokesman

if you think greta wasn't just a prop installed by adults because they thought their message would come across better t

why is this being directed at me? I have said elsewhere I thought Greta was groomed into activism. Try to make sure people actually have the positions you’re criticizing before you ascribe random positions to them.

Also, right wingers in the US have entire religions that they use to indoctrinate their children into political activism, no similar thing exists on the left. So I don’t think it’s comparable at all even though I agree lefties use their kids as props.

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