Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
[QUOTE=Crossnerd]Edit: RULES FOR THIS THREAD
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1. No personal attacks. This is a broad instruction, but, in general, we want to focus on attacking an argument rather than the poster making it. It is fine to say a post is antisemitic; it is not okay to call someone an antisemite over and over. If you believe someone is making antisemitic posts, report them or PM me. The same goes for calling people "baby killers" and "genocide lovers". You are allowed to argue that an action supports genocide or that the consequences of certain policies results in the death of children, but we are no longer going to be speaking to one another's intentions. It is not productive to the conversation and doesn't further any debate.
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Like obviously in my ideal world, gentle inconsequential warnings given in good faith are just taken with the tiniest bit of thoughtfulness and deference where the temperature could just be lowered with all in accord, but I’m also ever so slightly delulu as an artist and musician.
Let’s play a game, who can take the deepest breath?!
ever been to an arab wedding? ever celebrated Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha with muslims? ever went on vacation with arabs?
Cause i have just described a regular year of any Israeli.
dont bother answering. your mask was uncovered already.
I mean his name is Trolly…there is no real mask there
BOTH OF YOU are going to eat bans and I’ll make it go through Election Day too if you don’t stop PLEASE!
Just matters in regards to the accuracy of my guess.
The reason I thought you might be Persian or Arab and/or Muslim was your reaction to my telling you to **** off. It would have come off pretty racist if you weren't something like that, so I was guessing you weren't that racist.
Like I’m asking soooo nicely, please stop
What did I do? He’s the one telling me to **** off
Speaking of expectations considering what I’ve been infracted and banned for in the last 72 hours I expect microbet to eat a ban for this, and if he isn’t I would like a detailed expectation for why
Well, I hope you don't get banned, but then I love freedom.
CN, sorry to be trouble, though I really think it's pretty obvious that I'm playing around, but I'm a cat that won't be herded. Do what you will. No hard feelings.
Omfg. Alright.
Stripping them is standard but why does the IDF keep taking pics of them and posting them after? Surely they realize the optics in play here.
The IDF has an astonishingly unprofessional army, which is why soldiers routinely upload photos of themselves going through the underwear of the people they've displaced. Don't think there's any first-world army out there where this wouldn't be a scandal. The optics are terrible, but it scarcely matters given the magnitude of the ongoing atrocities.
This is why we can't have nice things.
The issue with the personal attacks is that it inevitably devolves into the above type of exchange, and while we can all agree to disagree about the harmfulness of using "big boy" language, the problem with using it so liberally is that it causes these long derails between individuals who needs to rib and barb and get the last word in when it has no relevance to the content of the thread.
People should not have to read through these interpersonal contentless exchanges to be able to post on topic here.
Take a look at yourselves and ask if you're actually participating in a functional way for community debates. Seriously. This isn't about behavior so much as it is about efficacy and usefulness for *everyone*.
I am going to reopen this thread in 15 minutes, and if everyone can't chill out I'm just going to ban everyone.
Iran has threatened the USA with a "crushing response" to the attacks from Israel.
How's that for content?
IRI has been trying to destroy Israel and threatening the US for 40+ years . For "reasons," starting with Obama the Democrat party thought the best way to deal with this was to appease the IRI. And the IRI used the space the Obama administration gave them to build and arm proxy armies throughout the region, that have been following through on the promise to destroy Israel and punish the US.
At some point we have to accept we cant appease the IRI. They are right wing theocrats fulfilling a sacred religious obligation in their minds. So we either have to let them (try to) destroy Israel or stop them. The last 40 years have shown there is no middle ground. Just kicking the can down the road.
hamas has now confirmed that deif was in fact LIQUIDATED several months ago 😀
no, some Saudi owned London based newspaper "confirmed" that. Hamas denied it.
he may be dead. he may not be. but Hamas def did not confirm it lol. fake news.
cant tell whether this is denial or bargaining
Do you think the posters who mention genocide or apartheid don’t actually believe that’s what’s occurring?
I don't know. If they do, they're prone to thinking emotively and engaging in hyperbole due to being emotive, imo. And again I can't take them seriously.
If they don't, then they're deliberately using loaded hot button terms as a weapon, due to an apparent anti Israel bias. Either way, I can't take any argument seriously, particularly if it's the latter option as that's simply bad faith posting.
If it's the former though then they should state it's their belief or opinion that genocide and apartheid is what's happening, rather than asserting it, as if it's empirical fact.
Blue,
You should probably put Trolly, Victor and Jalfrezi on ignore for your own good. The mod has made it clear that as long as they dont name call, they can spread as many antisemetic lies, push Islamist and Russian propaganda, and dehumanize Jews and Ukranians as much as they want.
You could of course do the same for Palestinians, but you wont because you are actually a decent human being. So it is just an asymmetry you have to live with.
It just is what it is.
I do appreciate you actually
I disagree with this. Victor got a month long ban and the mods have forbidden Nazi comparisons re the IDF. Infractions have been given when personal attacks are made, regardless of where it comes from. Mods can also be reasonable and understanding when it comes to potential misunderstandings of comments or intention and have shown an open mindedness and willingness to change their perception, so again, I disagree with you here. If you're specifically referring to CN, then I personally think she's actually very fair on a thread which is really not an easy or at time very pleasant one to mod.
no you just posted fake news.
Hamas did not confirm anything.
