Trump 2nd term prediction thread

thats wild bro people should be talking about this more

Gorgon. How many cats have you got?

You must also believe that the 24hr hot dog stand next to a dumpster that serves something that looks like it's made mostly from rat meat really does have the best hot dogs in the whole of Vegas. But look, it says so on the sign!

I mean, it's unsurprising that someone like you would be entirely susceptible to sloganeering, but come on man, you're not 5 years old. Try and use whatever is left of your brain to understand that slogans are marketing material, not documentation.

Trump accomplished relatively little during his first term precisely because his administration was a disorganized clownshow. When you have people slow-walking stuff to the president because they don't trust him to behave rationally, that's a clown show. When you have an endless parade of people leaving the administration (90% of whom are conservative) because they believe the president is dangerous, authoritarian, impetuous, moronic, or some combination of all four traits, that's a clown show. When competence seems inversely correlated with being able to tolerate working for the president, that's a clown show. When nepotism is a defining feature of your administration, that's a clown show.

On the question of Trump's behavior after the election, you are guilty of disingenuous framing, just like most conservatives in this forum. The fact that people broke into the Capitol on January 6 was embarrassing, and there could have been more violence, but it was only a small piece of a much larger sequence of events. Trump spent two months trying to convince the American public of a blatant lie that went directly to the core of American democracy. He did so without regard to the consequences for the country. He did so for the sole purpose of trying to remain in office after he indisputably lost an election. That would have been a mortal sin in my eyes even if January 6 had not happened. The people who excuse that behavior by saying that he was just using the tools in the toolbag are depraved imo.

Okay, when was it great then? Apparently it wasn't when Reagan was running because he ran on "Let's Make America Great Again."

Then you had Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, and we know how MAGA feels about Bush and Bush Jr., Clinton, and Obama.

And Trump apparently didn't make America great again because he ran on the same slogan in 2020 until it was pointed out to him that this was a tacit admission that his presidency was a failure, so he changed it to Keep America Great a couple of months later. Now after 4 years, it's Save America.

So... list the dates in which America was great and the point in history you'd like to restore us to.

Russia already at all time high of 21% interest rates to fight inflation .
The rubble weakening right now just fine .

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/10/25/russian-central-bank-hikes-interest-rate-to-record-high-21-to-fight-inflation

euronews

Russian central bank hikes interest rate to record-high 21%

Find another talking point ?

"What's wrong with wanting to make America great" is an argument for toddlers. Truly it is. But trying to pin Republicans down to a specific time when they thought America was great so that you can point out all the stuff that sucked at that particular time isn't much better imo. MAGA is just a political slogan. In a serious debate about Trump the president (as opposed to Trump the campaigner or Trump the brand), the slogan isn't much of a talking point for either side imo.

not my answer but what not a small amount of people told me, Clinton second term was perhaps the best moment to be an American.

full dividend of peace still being cashed, no 9/11 yet, music and movies were still good, pretty liberal social behavior in enough circles but no insane excesses being pushed as "normal" 24/7.

low racial animosity, regular immigration happening but without disasters, increasing homeownership, first time home price still reasonable, good salaries out of college and modest student loan balances.

USA was indisputably number one worldwide, oil was almost free, high school graduated people could find solid jobs still, and so on.

can call 1998 the best probably under those lens.

I do like technology too much to agree but it's hard to disagree if you accept their value preferences

Fine but they can’t drink a beer or vote before 18 for what reason exactly if they have enough judgement to sleep with 40-50 years old man ?

Don’t know about you but I see a certain difference between a 19 years old « man »sleeping with a 17 years old girl and a a man of 40+ years old shrug .

How many time in my life I though « could you imagine I was 20 years old with the experience and knowledge I have today ….. »

Ps: girls finish growing around 15-16 in general .
Pretty close being a child …

MAGA is a slogan but some elements (technically reactionary ones) are clear .

racial relations were better before DEI. DEI is cancer and has to be eradicated in full.

home prices are too high compared to salaries, compared to many other times in the past.

too many immigrants per year are entering unlike in the pass.

student loans are too high compared to salaries a tad too often (solution is stop subsidizing shitty degrees though, not forfeiting them).

too many foreign actors are making a joke of the USA without repercussions.

It's absurd freaking pirates and tribes in the desert can disrupt trade for a whole region of the world. Bomb them and hunt them until they are all dead or they stop, like america used to do.

and so on.

ofc people on the left will claim that homosexual marriage being legal in all the 50 states more than makes up for that and the rest of the things that went deteriorating (like fertility and so on), but some people might think that's not enough

i don't know man, I think that you should remind the same 17y old is allowed to ask physicians to mutilate him by removing healthy genitals so what's your take on that with regards to age of consent?

Of course it's just political slogan that is pointless; that's the point of trying to pin Republicans down to a specific time - so they can possibly figure out it's just a slogan. But these guys are convinced that the American flag belongs to one side of the political aisle, so it's probably an exercise in futility.

Do you think it would be ok for someone having aids and sleep around with no protection and no aids medication with unaware partners ?

If you think not , then you should be able to make a link how abortion and contagious disease isn’t similar .
One affect only you personally while others can affect others for life with dire consequences if not life threatening ……

Not if people have the vaccine. Biden said if you take it you're immune.

So really it would only be the people that don't take it that are impacted so that's a risk they sign up for.

Alright, that’s a fair point.

You think Gaetz is worse than the Sec of Defense pick? That guy seems incredibly unqualified to be second in command of the world’s most powerful military. Besides that he’s a Christian nationalist, climate change denialist, and apparently was part of persuading Trump to pardon those war criminals in the last term. I’m not saying he’s worse than Gaetz but they both seem so bad and so dangerous for the role that it’s hard for me to gauge who’s worse.

Hope this isn’t a fail try of gotcha moment because I agree they shouldn’t until 18 + (adult) ….
You have anything else on why you disagree with my previous post against gaetz ? ?

I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that President Trump doesn't from the bottom of his heart wanna make america great. For example, if he opened up the boarders to invite anyone and everyone into the country freely like your party did, then I would have a different view.

not a gotcha, just that if a society allows consent to self mutilate (or have other experts mutilate you) then it surely can (and should) allow sex at the same age and there is no incoherence

You are missing one crucial point !
I would absolutely agree with you
IF
Those that didn’t take the vaccine passes after everyone else at the emergency room , even in life threatening conditions .

Would you agree ?

Because obviously it was not just about immunity , it was about preventing closed access to hospitals in case of emergency , glutted by those unvaccinated people …

so you think under the new DoD secretary the militaries will waste MORE money? will take more time to be combat ready?

what's the danger that you foresee?

You comment implying that "MAGA clowns [are] more focused on the emotional suffering of people who didn’t want this and less focused on how the country will actually be better" was a response to TheFly's comment about libtard's heads exploding over Lara Trump and then laughing at them. The point was that there's no shortage of people on the left who act the same way towards conservatives.

I agree !
So to me gaetz (and anyone else with the same history sheet ) is just a piece of $h!t and shouldn’t have access to that kind of position ….

Who ?
Are they in power ?
What were their actions hurting against conservatives you can relate too ?

Not I don’t believe you but want to know what we talking about ?

Both seem terrible. I just feel more confident talking about Gaetz because I have a legal background and I've known many, many people over the years who worked at DOJ. I wouldn't be surprised if someone with a high-level military/DoD background felt just as strongly about Hegseth.