Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Q. How do we know they want to kill everyone?
A. Because they keep telling us.
We have no interest... in hurting people who are innocent. There are almost no innocent people in Gaza. Each of them, it's either his son or his brother or that he encourages it.
Last Monday: Minister Dudi Amsalem
Estimate of the number of deaths due to traumatic injury in Gaza: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...
This is for the period October 7, 2023 through June 30, 2024. The numbers are certainly higher now.
Good for them.
I'm shocked more European countries aren't more supportive of Bibi given the disaster their countries have fallen into.
Bibi is a hero. He is transforming the entire Middle East. Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah etc are no longer a major threat. When the Houthis are your biggest problem you have done well.
In most of our countries we can't because judges are crazy leftists and we can't control them nor elect them.
So in Italy for example Meloni would love to be able to do the same but she can't, applying ICC orders is out of her range of choices, and there is nothing political we can do to change it other than perhaps exiting the whole treaty.
In Italy in particular we are in a judiciary "soft coup d'etat" since decades ago, in the sense that this unelected, fully unaccountable caste calls the shots on a growing number of societal issues and everyone else has no recourse to do anything about it
The leader of AfD gave one of the best answers ever regarding Israel
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ALICE WEIDEL: “Israel is very complicated. To be honest, I don’t see a solution. Maybe Israel has to find some alliances with Sunni states if possible? I’m not a politician to just say things, and I don’t know. What do you think, Elon?”
ELON MUSK: “Do you unequivocally support the existence of a state called Israel?”
ALICE WEIDEL: “Yes. Of course. We need to protect the existence of a state called Israel.”
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I just disapprove of the disgusting mass murder and repression from Israel's allies in Syria right now.
You mean the people being supported directly by Turkey, who have said their ultimate goal is to liberate Aqsa, and that Israel is taking land from and destroying all their weapons preemptively, correct?
In the real world, Israel govt officials are actually surprised and a little concerned that Western Europeans nations (who unlike Israel are actually establishing diplomatic relations with HTS) are so welcoming to what is basically Al Qaida. And Trump is a complete wildcard at this point.
It is just wild how you have spent the last 2 years self radicalizing yourself with anti-Israel propaganda online, to the point there is no acknowledgement of reality. It is complete fantasy land.
In other news the US and Israel are doing Joint strikes in Yemen. They are doing their best to go after military bases (which are underground with little intelligence on, so it is difficult) without impacting civilians.
The Houthis seem to be crazy and just dont care, so I doubt there will be any deterence. They will have to degrade their military capabilities and stop Iran from re-arming them to actually get them to stop.
There is also intelligence China is directly supplying and giving the Houthis intelligence in exchange for promises none of their ships will be targeted. So at some point this needs to be addressed to.
You mean the people being supported directly by Turkey, who have said their ultimate goal is to liberate Aqsa, and that Israel is taking land from and destroying all their weapons preemptively, correct? In the real world, Israel govt officials are actually surprised and a little concerned that Western Europeans nations (who unlike Israel are actually establishing diplomatic re
Israel gave weapons and aid to these guys.
https://timesofisrael.com/idf-chief-ackn...
they also treated them in their hospitals
damn now we want to ban the leader of israel from attending an Auschwitz memorial itt, that is bad
according to the Israeli govt and military, who are the same people that have told a ton of lies in the service of an extermination campaign.
I dont believe people who do that. I guess you can believe them if you want.
No, liberalism quite literally stands for equality before the law, not threatening to sanction the highest court in the world when knowing that you are guilty of crimes and about to be brought to justice for them
No, liberalism quite literally stands for equality before the law, not threatening to sanction the highest court in the world when knowing that you are guilty of crimes and about to be brought to justice for them
for citizens, not for everyone in the world and a law that wasn't passed by your citizens.
you can at most think to force your own laws on others if you think yours are liberal and theirs aren't, but the opposite? lol no, not for a liberal.
for a internationalist Marxist instead it can make sense.
the "highest court in the world" doesn't even have jurisdiction in the USA lol
Was contemplating how far Sinwar set back two state today. It's actually crazy.
He got his soldiers killed, his territory destroyed, so many of his people dead. With Trump inbound I can't imagine there's any pressure to reward Hamas with a state now.
I'm not sure he (Sinwar) could have done worse at this point. Honestly, just a colossal failure and a human tragedy of epic proportions.
Was contemplating how far Sinwar set back two state today. It's actually crazy. He got his soldiers killed, his territory destroyed, so many of his people dead. With Trump inbound I can't imagine there's any pressure to reward Hamas with a state now. I'm not sure he (Sinwar) could have done worse at this point. Honestly, just a colossal failure and a human tragedy of epic propo
The two state has been dead for a while. No way Israelis would want to live next to these people. No way Israelis could ever feel safe. These people have caused problems everywhere they have gone which is why no Arab countries want them.
Hmm... This is interesting.
I wonder if this was just Trump hitting the wrong button or what.
There's no evidence Trump reposted that. Even in this guy's comments people commented immediately they don't see that Trump posted that and not one person can confirm it
There's no evidence Trump reposted that. Even in this guy's comments people commented immediately they don't see that Trump posted that and not one person can confirm it
Still does not mean what that gentleman said was not true..
For years it has been known the iraqi war was manufactured and there are videos of netanyahu confirming that Iraq had WMD through his intelligence , which was obviously bullshit,
another reason a lot of us don't trust him and think he is Evil and by extension the IDF
Still does not mean what that gentleman said was not true..
For years it has been known the iraqi war was manufactured and there are videos of netanyahu confirming that Iraq had WMD through his intelligence , which was obviously bullshit,
another reason a lot of us don't trust him and think he is Evil and by extension the IDF
The Iraq war casus belli was manufactured but it was a concerted effort that included british secret services, italian secret services, a lot of american fake intelligence and so on, and Israel wasn't really relevant to that.
This is the typical antisemitic trope analogous to when "big banks" do something bad, people see some jews have some important positions in those banks, and they say jews did bad stuff, when it was bad banks with all ethnicities implicated
damn now we want to ban the leader of israel from attending an Auschwitz memorial itt, that is bad
Well he shouldn't be the leader of Israel and he shouldn't attend anything other than a prison.
Well he shouldn't be the leader of Israel and he shouldn't attend anything other than a prison.
i think its terrible to block him from attending a memorial for an IRL genocide
