Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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06 November 2024 at 12:32 PM
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by Playbig2000 k

I'm actually the opposite, I'm one of the hardest people in the world to fool.

This is something a person that gets fooled all the time would say.


by Gorgonian k

I didn't say I was. You just made that up.

You said I was fooled into believing we need to have a presence in Greenland

by Gorgonian k

This is an absolutely perfect encapsulation of how easy these drooling chipmunks are to fool.

Now you're saying you didn't mean that.

How was I fooled if I was right then?



wanting to acquire greenland is not new

we wanted it even during colonial times there was heated discussion about acquiring it from denmark

harry truman made an earnest effort to purchase it from denmark as well but it was rebuffed

this is the third time we've made an earnest play to acquire the land, this is not some wild insane trump thing but a common goal by several american administrations of the past


by rickroll k

this is the third time we've made an earnest play to acquire the land

I think you are overestimating what is going on here.


by Didace k

This is something a person that gets fooled all the time would say.

BertrandRussell was likely thinking of PB and others of his ilk when he quipped, “The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.”

The cocksure are now in charge. And they think they’re smart. America is ****ed.


by Playbig2000 k

You said I was fooled into believing we need to have a presence in Greenland

I said that your post was a great example of how easy you are to fool. Try reading.

by Playbig2000 k

Now you're saying you didn't mean that.

I meant every word I said.

by Playbig2000 k

How was I fooled if I was right then?

I didn't say you were right or wrong. Read what I said and stop making stuff up.


by Didace k

I think you are overestimating what is going on here.

no

trump cares about one thing and one thing only, being remembered as such a great president that in 50 years we add him to rushmore

to accomplish that, he'll need to do something tremendous that one can look at and say "trump did that"

greenland can be his louisiana purchase - it's his most realistic shot at this and it looks ffing huge on a mercator projection map

it seems unlikely though, hence why he's already hedging on panana canal and trying to rename the gulf of mexico


by rickroll k

no

trump cares about one thing and one thing only, being remembered as such a great president that in 50 years we add him to rushmore

Well, he did a shitty job of it. I could have sworn all he cared about was golf and trolling the libs during his first term. People tell me that during his 2nd term he'll be reserved and more professional, but I don't see any evidence of that prediction turning out to be true.


by rickroll k

trump cares about one thing and one thing only, being remembered as such a great president that in 50 years we add him to rushmore

"Trump doesn't care about money or attention" is a wild, wild take.

Also, Trump would have zero chance of being remembered as a great president even if he bought Greenland and all of South America for a crisp $1 bill.


by Land O Lakes k

People tell me that during his 2nd term he'll be reserved and more professional

I find it hard to believe that anyone told you this.


by Luciom k

Yet is in the constitution, which limits the government from discriminating, not private actors.

Simple laws were added to limit discrimination by private actors, much later. While government discrimination is a violation of the basic principles of the USA.

It isn't an "absurd" distinction, it's a very clear constitutional one, which makes defendant of PUBLIC discrimination much worse offenders of the rule of law (= a bigger threat to society) than private actors doing the same.

Maybe if we didn’t have federal preemption and the Commerce Clause you would be right but since we have both…..you are absurd.


by Didace k

This is something a person that gets fooled all the time would say.

yep


by jjjou812 k

Maybe if we didn’t have federal preemption and the Commerce Clause you would be right but since we have both…..you are absurd.

Do I need a warrant to search my son bedroom in the USA?


Do you think we allow employers to discriminate at will because they are not the government but private actors?

It isn't an "absurd" distinction, it's a very clear constitutional one, which makes defendant of PUBLIC discrimination much worse offenders of the rule of law (= a bigger threat to society) than private actors doing the same.
- I have no idea what this means.


by jjjou812 k

Do you think we allow employers to discriminate at will because they are not the government but private actors?

I think you could just by repealing the civil right act and other laws connected to it yes.

I think you decided to block private actors to do that by simple law, not because of the constitution which doesn't imply at any point that private people can't discriminate, and a simple majority of Congress could completely remove all those protections, while nothing of the sort could happen on the public side, requiring a constitutional amendment.

And keep in mind that a lot of private discrimination is still perfectly legal currently, while NO FORM of public discrimination is, for any trait.

You can refuse to hire or rent to obese people for example (under the federal constitution, some states banned that), the government can't treat obese people worse than other people in any way.


by Rococo k

"Trump doesn't care about money or attention" is a wild, wild take.

Also, Trump would have zero chance of being remembered as a great president even if he bought Greenland and all of South America for a crisp $1 bill.

i think you're too emotionally biased

in 100 years we'll forget the buffoonery (we've forgotten with many already) and will only think the fact that we now have all that greenland oil


Is Trump still doing mass deportations day 1?


by Playbig2000 k

Then can you explain why it's NOT a national security issue for the U.S. to have a major presence in Greenland?

Spoiler
Show

"why should't he do that?"

"idk, but he just shouldn't. He's a bad orange man."

If it's such an issue, why someone as informed as you didn't talk about it 24/7 in this very forum before the late news?


by fakekidpoker k

Is Trump still doing mass deportations day 1?

In theory he kept that narrative going.

In practice as a minimum he will need his guys confirmed in homeland security, DOJ and so on to start (if he wants to start)


by fakekidpoker k

Is Trump still doing mass deportations day 1?

is he continuing Biden's policy? probably




Hegseth in the senate basically said that he would like all torture to be legal and for the USA to drop out of any treaty that in any way limits it's abilities to do absolutely whatever it wants to , to win war (or achieve other goals).

That's a spirit i like a lot, included the fact that he went publicly on the record about this, no shame at all.


Trump could host it as a game show where he uses the wheel of torture on journalists that say mean things to him.



by Luciom k

Hegseth in the senate basically said that he would like all torture to be legal and for the USA to drop out of any treaty that in any way limits it's abilities to do absolutely whatever it wants to , to win war (or achieve other goals).

That's a spirit i like a lot, included the fact that he went publicly on the record about this, no shame at all.

you are a sick m'fer


by rickroll k

i think you're too emotionally biased

in 100 years we'll forget the buffoonery (we've forgotten with many already) and will only think the fact that we now have all that greenland oil

I'm not emotional. I'm just observant. You are the person who thinks that Trump doesn't care about money or attention.

Also, Trump's orange pancake, elaborate combover, and penchant for insults and dumb tweets (i.e., the buffonery) aren't the main reasons why he will be denigrated by history.


by Rococo k

I find it hard to believe that anyone told you this.

Three different people on separate occasions in November. All lifelong "vote red until I'm dead" voters. I don't think any of them actually believe it since when I asked "Oh, yeah? And what makes you think that?" they mumbled a bunch of incoherent bullshit and either changed the subject or deflected when I pressed back.

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