Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

[QUOTE=Crossnerd]Edit: RULES FOR THIS THREAD

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1. No personal attacks. This is a broad instruction, but, in general, we want to focus on attacking an argument rather than the poster making it. It is fine to say a post is antisemitic; it is not okay to call someone an antisemite over and over. If you believe someone is making antisemitic posts, report them or PM me. The same goes for calling people "baby killers" and "genocide lovers". You are allowed to argue that an action supports genocide or that the consequences of certain policies results in the death of children, but we are no longer going to be speaking to one another's intentions. It is not productive to the conversation and doesn't further any debate.

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by mongidig k

Maybe it could have been avoided. You can't deny that through all of this Israel has thrived and Gaza has dived.

The Nakba was caused by the Arabs. They told the people to leave and that they would be able to come back after they destroyed Israel. OOPs!

The bombing of the Nuclear plant was a good thing.

Nobody is denying that Israel has thrived while Palestine has dived. Ever wonder why that really is?

Israel has been supported without reservation financially, militarily AND politically by US UK & Germany for the last 8 decades. In the process, they have treated calls against their blatant disregard of International Law with impunity, and thanks to the West have not only gone unscathed, but bolstered and encouraged to keep doing so. How much of that type of backing have the Palestinians received "through all of this"?

You're more or less bragging about beating up a defenseless 8 year old kid. Congratulations, so strong country!!

Secondly, your claim that Palestinians left voluntarily because they were told to do so is nothing more than another in a long list of hilariously easily refuted Zionist lies. There is precisely zero evidence of any such radio broadcast of newspaper publishing suggesting so. On the contrary, there are many examples Arab leaders calling for Palestinians to stay and fight the invading enemy.

https://www.palestine-studies.org/sites/...

Lastly, great analogy that bombing a Nuclear plant in Iraq was a good thing. Carrying out an unprovoked attack on a neighboring country's energy sector is great self defense. Likely the best way to ensure peace in the region also. When I meet my future wife I will tell her that although I am not a virgin, maybe if I **** a bunch of hoes before I marry her, I'll likely get my virginity back.

What a joke of a country.


by Victor k

his argument is that they stole it fair and square and theres nothing any of their victims can do about it.



liberals will tell you that that meme is antisemitic. I guess they arent wrong given the new definition of the term.


It is antisemitic, and I don’t mean vaguely. Gotwoot will return to us in a week.


those are the literal words that man said. it was even on ****ing Jon Oliver years ago.

is this antisemitic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqK3_n6p...

ofc it is. bc it makes Israel and a single Jewish person look bad.



since that video from John Oliver on HBO is likely banworthy, I should talk about the political prisoners that have been released by the Israeli Supremacists the last few weeks. most are women and children without charges. most were arrested after Al Aqsa Flood.

many have needed hospitalization and look severely malnourished. I would post pictures but that would probably prompt a ban for a certain comparison.

some were released in Nov 2023 and rearrested including children.

all interviewed mentioned they were beaten until the last moment. they also said that they were forced to sign papers and couldnt divulge further information. they were sent home with bracelets that said something to the effect of “The eternal nation does not forget. I will pursue my enemies and overtake them.”

I was going to post the pictures and story of the boy who was abducted at 14 and finally released but that would certainly cause a ban bc his condition was so horrid. Instead, here is another travesty (depending on how you view Israel I guess it might not be) https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/202110...



note to mods, I am not calling anyone a liar. tihs is probably just a misunderstanding or miscalculation.

anyway, the aid worker for a Christian agency is probably Hamas bc why else would they have insisted on his release?


by Victor k

those are the literal words that man said. it was even on ****ing Jon Oliver years ago.

is this antisemitic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqK3_n6p...

ofc it is. bc it makes Israel and a single Jewish person look bad.

It’s not a ****ing “Israeli proverb.” One guy saying something awful doesn’t make every Jew in Israel a thief, like the meme implies.


And the video isn’t bannworthy, nor is talking about it. But the subtext from that meme photo posted absolutely is, and the fact that you can’t tell the difference is your issue, not mine.

And you and your little buddy microbet can stop with the ****ing mod garbage. If I wanted to just do whatever is easiest or go on a power trip, I’d have sided with BGP and banned you instead of going to bat for what I believed was correct. And just for microbet whenever he reads this, no woman in my life ever has ever confused my niceness for condescension. I don’t consider mods to be “masters”, I consider them to be servants at best and leaders at worst. (I’m a better servant than leader.)

If I demod, someone else will replace me. Constantly coming at me will not suddenly change the owners’ policy of moderated discussion. Is there someone else you’d prefer? Let me know so I can tell the mod forum. 👍


are you really trying to act like I cosign micros posts in a thread that I have been banned from posting in for over a week?

micro posts his own **** and trust and believe that I dont agree with him about Democrats and esp about Jews and Israel.

completely absurd to think that his ideas are mine and then threaten me about it.


by Victor k

are you really trying to act like I cosign micros posts in a thread that I have been banned from posting in for over a week?

micro posts his own **** and trust and believe that I dont agree with him about Democrats and esp about Jews and Israel.

completely absurd to think that his ideas are mine and then threaten me about it.

What does Micro think about Jews that you disagree with?


any dialog I have with micro is not going to go through you or in public.


CN,

I don't want anyone to be mod.

- Victor's little buddy


by microbet k

CN,

I don't want anyone to be mod.

- Victor's little buddy

And that’s an understandable take- one I might even share. But the reality is there are moderators. I can’t change that; you can’t change that. So the question becomes why are you antagonizing a friendly prosecutor?

The other point that I take issue with, and you will likely handwave this away as nonsense, BUT. You occupy spheres of privilege I will never once in my life know or access, and for some reason do not factor this in to your complex calculations of power where I am concerned. You’ve fallen into some similar quicksands that the “not all men” bros have dunked themselves in, and don’t seem to realize it. I don’t judge you for it, but, respectfully, I see your blind spots as much as you see mine.


and my question is why are you attacking me for some beef that you have with micro from a completely different thread?


I never suggested men aren't privileged and if you think I've been especially, or even nearly as, difficult with you as with other mods you should ask Wookie or goofyballer.

As far as what we can change, I know. I don't expect to win.


thats rhetorical. I dont want an answer bc I am trying to thread the needle of not pissing either of you off for something that I was never involved in.


by Victor k

and my question is why are you attacking me for some beef that you have with micro from a completely different thread?

Because I'm your little buddy.

(this is like teasing/joking...not meaning to be antagonistic)


Win what??


by microbet k

Because I'm your little buddy.

(this is like teasing/joking...not meaning to be antagonistic)

we are buddies. this is a lame thing to say but one of the surest signs of friendship is to be able to disagree and still have love.


I mean, I assume you will find it a win that I’ve put in for a replacement. Bc this doesn’t actually affect me in some compartmental way where I’m not a person. Good ****ing luck, shitheads.


And **** you


What kind of morons get one of their own in a position of authority and then browbeat and demoralize them into resigning. Good job good effort idiots.


by Crossnerd k

Win what??

I was referring to this:

"But the reality is there are moderators. I can’t change that; you can’t change that. "

I don't expect to change that or really have much influence on how things are moderated around here.


Then don’t post here, you ****ing *******


You ****ing win

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