Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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I actually didnt realize what he was talking about when I responded. I thought it had something to do with Oct 7th celebrations. now that I realize what he meant...
Hamas transferring a coffin with (yet another) baby that Israel exterminated is not a "parade".
Multiple Israeli politicians are going there outright calling for the extermination/expulsion of ALL Palestinians in the area, putting out statements that would have made Hitler seem like a lib on the question of race relations, just some real hardcore genocide, even by their standards... and BOIDS is still perpetually there to carry water for them, one lame, content-less quip at a time.
Show your work? There are more sex criminals per capita in Israel that say the USA or Canada? Where does any of this get supported? And what in god's name about Judaism would draw any sort of logical tie to a higher degree of this?Like I can safely say that more Israelis than Canadians know how to use an automatic weapon. I could even verify it. But what you're talking about it
LOLOLOLOLOL at "show your work". Why would I bother to do something that YOU have never done in your entire posting life? Anyway, feel free to check around Twitter for a while and you'll learn about the US-Israel sex criminal pipeline.
If the "Palestinians" had layed down their arms the power and water etc wouldn't have been shut off. They should chill out with the jihads and the intifadas. I don't think the Gazans ever want peace. What makes things worse is that the Jews coming off the Holocaust are going to respond massively to any attacks to ensure this never happens again. This then perpetuates the false
Israel commits all these horrific acts upon the Palestinian population EVEN DURING TIMES OF RELATIVE PEACE. That's a big part of why 10/7 happened in the first place. Israel has been straight brutalizing Palestinians without interruption for decades.
Netanyahu officially announces full blockade, collective punishment and starvation on Gaza, no aid will be allowed and all borders will be closed while claiming that Israel didn’t violate the agreement.
Knesset deputy speaker Nissim Vaturi calls to bomb the food warehouses in Gaza. This comes only six days after the same revolting piece of **** said that all Palestinian adults in Gaza 'should be eliminated'. We still aren't allowed to make the obvious comparison with the past that needs to be made.
If the Israeli state as currently constituted comes to an end, it won't be because of external enemies, it'll be because of internal craziness. Moshe Dayan said that Israel would always need new enemies because it would always need new land, but now Israel needs enemies because uniting against an external threat is the only thing that can paper over the country's serious political and social cracks.
If the Israeli state as currently constituted comes to an end, it won't be because of external enemies, it'll be because of internal craziness. Moshe Dayan said that Israel would always need new enemies because it would always need new land, but now Israel needs enemies because uniting against an external threat is the only thing that can paper over the country's serious politi
Your probably not wrong, but I dont think Israel is going to go quietly. I think it is going to take half the Middle East with them.
Also, this is what happens after 80 years of constant conflict. Palestinian radicalization is only half the problem; the other half is Israeli. As I have been saying; the international community has been tremendously irresponsible and reckless supporting the Palestine forever war to reclaim Israel for the last 80 years. I completely blame the international community for the mess we are in.
After the Arabs lost 3 wars to conquer Israel and washed their hands of the situation and the Palestinian people, the international community had to come in and treat the Palestinians as they do all other refugees and look to settle them and integrate them into the functional world. Instead making them permanent refugees and incentivizing subsidized permanent resistance has been a disaster for everyone.
looting is fine. in fact its celebrated when Israelis do it.
looting is fine. in fact its celebrated when Israelis do it.
You would do the same thing if you won the war against Israel.
Netanyahu officially announces full blockade, collective punishment and starvation on Gaza, no aid will be allowed and all borders will be closed while claiming that Israel didn’t violate the agreement.
very good if true, should have happened since October 2023 but better late than never.
no other way to eradicate Hamas, "aid" was siphoned by them anyway and the revenue coming from it used to further their "resistance"
very good if true, should have happened since October 2023 but better late than never.
no other way to eradicate Hamas, "aid" was siphoned by them anyway and the revenue coming from it used to further their "resistance"
Israel and the US under Trump are trying to pressure Hamas into continuing prisoner/hostage swaps. Hamas for its part doesn't want to do any more swaps until Israel leaves Gaza and the war is officially ended (with them the titular power in the Gaza Strip).
Israel says enough food was delivered in the last few weeks to last months, so there is no risk of starvation. However, even if this is true we know the propaganda war is going to argue the opposite, and most of the world is going to side with Hamas, as it always does.
For good or bad, Israel seems to be completely tying itself to the Trump administration. The rest of the world just wants to go back to the pre 10/7 status quo and forget about Israel/Gaza until rockets start being fired at Tel Aviv again in a few years. Israel seems to be really taking a gamble the Trump administration is giving them enough support to actually change the paradigm into something more favorable to them.
Israel and the US under Trump are trying to pressure Hamas into continuing prisoner/hostage swaps. Hamas for its part doesn't want to do any more swaps until Israel leaves Gaza and the war is officially ended (with them the titular power in the Gaza Strip).
That's literally what the cease fire deal entailed. Israel broke the deal. Well really they never followed it.
But the prisoner exchanges scheduled for phase 2 are contingent on things that Israel didn't do and is now reneging on.
That's literally what the cease fire deal entailed. Israel broke the deal. Well really they never followed it.
But the prisoner exchanges scheduled for phase 2 are contingent on things that Israel didn't do and is now reneging on.
FWIW from Day 1 of the ceasefire Israel has been pretty emphatic Phase 2 would never happen until Hamas is gone. So Israel is pretty much following its word. Starting Phase 2 without Hamas promising to leave Gaza and/or dissolve would be going back on their word.
If anything, the strategic goal of all this is to put pressure on the Arab world to move forward with their own purported plans to take control of the Gaza Strip, which would entail making some sort of deal with known Hamas members to relocate them somewhere else. The Arab countries would prefer to do nothing, but it appears they are willing to step up and act if they are convinced if they dont, Israel will unilaterally move forward.
Hamas relinquishing control was not part of the phase 1 deal that they signed. Glad that we agree Israel lied like always.
And relocation was never part of the deal. Maybe it could have been negotiated for phase 2, but Israel never engaged in those negotiations. Bc they are liars that want to do genocide.
If anything, the strategic goal of all this is to put pressure on the Arab world to move forward with their own purported plans to take control of the Gaza Strip, which would entail making some sort of deal with known Hamas members to relocate them somewhere else. The Arab countries would prefer to do nothing, but it appears they are willing to step up and act if they are con
Gaza is like Camden NJ. Even the police don't go into Camden. Similarly, the Arab countries don't want to have to deal with the Gazans. Their reputation proceeds them. That being said, they certainly don't want Trump taking over so maybe they'll suck it up and do something.
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/10/antisem...The ADL documented 3,283 antisemitic incidents between October 7, 2023, and January 7, the group's report said. That's a 360% jump from the same period a year earlier.The report said 505 incidents occurred on college campuses, and another 246 were reported in K-12 schools.About two-thirds of the
called it. you guys might wonder how I am always right about this stuff. actually you probably dont bc you dont care about being right.
LOL ADL
LOL Jewish Currents
--This is like Hamas Ministry of Information saying Al Jazeera is too pro Western.
--In other news I cant tell if it is real or not; but right wing Israeli Twitter seems convinced with the IDF as muscle Druze in SW Syria are more or less declaring independence from Syria.
I actually did take a cursory look into the whole Israel - protector of Druze thing. turns out the Druze village is 3km from Damascus and home to over 100k people. weird that the media called it a "village". seems more like a suburban city.
lets check the demographics.
hmm, seems like a Christian suburban city.
oh, wait, I noticed one other thing...
right ofc. Israel will pursue theme anywhere.
I actually did take a cursory look into the whole Israel - protector of Druze thing. turns out the Druze village is 3km from Damascus and home to over 100k people. weird that the media called it a "village". seems more like a suburban city.lets check the demographics. hmm, seems like a Christian suburban city.oh, wait, I noticed one other thing... right ofc. Israel will p
That is one city. Israel right wing Twitter is arguing Israel/Druze is trying to carve out an entire region of SW Syria not much smaller than Israel or Lebanon.
Yay, the documentary "No Other Land" won the Oscar for best documentary. Wonder if it will get a US distributor now or keep being suppressed.
