Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV


nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4) -$5943.81


nl10 -$773.92 -15 buy ins below EV


Total loss -$15509.91


This is me playing nl2, nl5 and nl10 on party poker for one year.

My history begins somewhere in same period when they started to show WSOP shows in television. I think I have played 12-13 years nows mainly NL2, some amount of NL5 and little bit of NL10 what is the biggest stake i've ever played.

I've read all Sklansky, all Harrington, all Miller, watched huge amount of videos, bought trackers and calculators.

Still after those years and after that all I've lost huge amount of money on those stakes. I try to play my best but losing to huge suckouts like 95/5 favorite makes me really upset.

I've lost literally all my money including all my life savings to online poker. I want to try one last time to win those money back and little bit of extra. That's why $16k. What I need is support and guiding.

I had thread on micro forum but they deleted it just when people start to understand that this is real situation and not fake.

And if you wonder where that biggest loser comes from it was said by guy who has been playing for living many years. He said I'm the biggest loser in history counted as lost buy ins.

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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by Snowstorm k

Paisiting i just did some math and it turns out it would take you 128,000 shoves in a row at $10nl to win back your $16k if you shoved every single hand and never got called.

What do you think of this? Do you still think $16k is attainable with your current strategy?

Now imagine adding a 0 to your numbers, which is closer to the amount that Paisting has lost over the years.


by MarkDavis k

How would you approach a live game Paisting? One raise to your BB and then unleash hell and what would you do when it keeps happening? Given your attitude online I can't imagine it not ending with fists flying.

by ImePaskaa k

If you threaten to kill someone playing live they will kick you out and probably ban you. You truly are the biggest idiot in the history of the game. You are so fusking stupid.

by enzet k

Talking **** to better players is not part of the game, it's part of being an idiot.

You sometimes amaze me that you usually and most of the time talk and act like people who are real into poker and thinking somewhat clear. Excluding ImePaskaa who is total idiot. But he summarises also the lack of thinking in this scenario so that's why quote.

If there is chat it's part of the game. Never thought about why nowadays there is any few sites that has chat? Who benefits more from chat experienced or unexperienced player? You are right, just like any sports where is talking involved.

Now if we think how example Achmed still crying after complete humiliation by me after years and years and posting these chats. Do you think he didn't change he's game during our battle? I can tell he's stealing percent went down dramatically after I made actions.

If I were playing live and there is a guy who thinks he can push me around, you think he just keeps doing it if I use all tactics that there are available? Maybe casino will kick me out at some point. But do you think that guy will play all that time I would sit on that table same way? I can tell you there are really few people who will keep their acts same on these circumstances.


by Paisting k

Now if we think how example Achmed still crying after complete humiliation by me

This is Achmed's graph playing at the same table as you:


Point out where you humiliated him.


by Snowstorm k

This is Achmed's graph playing at the same table as you:

Point out where you humiliated him.

Option A - He will insult you.
Option B - He will say "But he stopped playing"
Option C - Both

I go with C.


i must know, why do you care so much about your blinds? i am genuinely curious. you take it as a personal insult if someone in late position raises when you are in the big blind. wtf? that is part of a sound preflop strategy.


Now if we think how example Achmed still crying after complete humiliation by me after years and years and posting these chats. Do you think he didn't change he's game during our battle? I can tell he's stealing percent went down dramatically after I made actions.

This is very accurate. After all you cant open 65s for example if you can expect a huge 3b or 3b jam. Who cares about $EV when you can just minimise your opponents steal %?

There hasn't been chat on 888 or many sites like many years

Who benefits more from chat experienced or unexperienced player?

Out of curiosity how come you don’t use your chat edge for many years? Have you been shifting your strategical focus on other aspects of the game?


Paisting is showing us that poker success isn't measured in how much $ you make, it can actually be the complete opposite!

No coaching or poker books will make you successful, because that would be copying a winning strategy which is not what successful players do. Like mentioned earlier, winnings or positive winrate is an irrelevant KPI.

What poker success is all about however, is the following (based on decades of playing and field tests in poker clients chats):
* Keep opponents steal % in check! You do not allow opponents to steal more than what feels too much to you. Please do not shy away from making losing plays to make this happen.
* The baseline assumption when you sit down is that no one knows who is who. Again, do not shy away from making losing plays to reveal identities and exposing who is who and who is not.
* Power statements: Your most powerful tool is the "All-in". It doesn't matter if your average All-in equity ends up being 38% or if you shove or call an All-in 25% of all hands you play.
* Don't let tilt hold you back! Embrace the tilt and the rage by shoving and calling all-ins with 52o, 75o and trash hands in general. Remember: Who is who? Yes, you. That's who.
* Let the poker community know how many 80% equity hands you lost, but never show them why your average all-in equity is 38%.
* The chat isn't for GGs and WPs. The chat is for grey-zone power statements. Threats are a great way to let people know money will come their way. I don't need the money, you do. Who wouldn't get humiliated by that statement.


We can criticize Paisting as a poker player as much as we want, and rightly so. But holy hell he's unique: Paisting's determination to stick to the limits he's rolled for -don't care where the money comes from- is top notch and probably he's way better than most really good regs in that regard. How many of you got to know players who were really good at the game yet they would jump from NL100 to limits they were not rolled for, or not play enough hours, etc.
Paisting is the embodiment of bankroll management, I know he tilts away 20 BI's at the first incovenience but he does so within the limits he plays. I literally have never known of someone with severe tilt issues who would not play higher limits when tilting.
The title is: "biggest loser(...)" I think that may be actually true if we account for BB/100 regardless of the limits. I don't think anyone in the whole field has had such a negative BB/100 during so much time.
Paisting's bankroll management is elite level. It's just unbelievable.


by ShoeMakerLevy9 k

We can criticize Paisting as a poker player as much as we want, and rightly so. But holy hell he's unique: Paisting's determination to stick to the limits he's rolled for -don't care where the money comes from- is top notch and probably he's way better than most really good regs in that regard. How many of you got to know players who were really good at the game yet they would jump from NL100 to limits they were not rolled for, or not play enough hours, etc.
Paisting is the embodiment of bankrol

Wth man, he doesn't manage his bankroll, he gets a new one every month from the government. Good bankroll management would be playing freerolls and tournament tickets for a losing player.

Only reason he's not playing higher is he wants his 70 hours of gambling every month and couldn't afford it for bigger stakes.


But you can't deny how astonishing it is that someone with his tilt issues doesn't go up stakes, even he does it because he needs the 70 hours of gambling. A normal person -with tilt issues like Paisting's- would play NL200 -or casino games- and burn it away within an hour or less.


by ShoeMakerLevy9 k

But you can't deny how astonishing it is that someone with his tilt issues doesn't go up stakes, even he does it because he needs the 70 hours of gambling. A normal person -with tilt issues like Paisting's- would play NL200 and burn it away within an hour or less.

Well that might be better, still down the same amount, but atleast has 69h to do something positive. Tilt jamming ATC for good part of those 70h does not seem like a good think for any persons health.


He had no business moving up to nl10 after years of getting punished on nl2 and still did it. That's 5x the stakes, he might be anxious about not being able to gamble for 3 weeks and doesn't risk the higher stakes, who knows.


by Snowstorm k

This is Achmed's graph playing at the same table as you:

Point out where you humiliated him.

red line duhhh


by Snowstorm k

This is Achmed's graph playing at the same table as you:

Point out where you humiliated him.



we probably shouldn't praise Paisting too much for playing NL10 with less than 20 buy-ins. why would you consider that good BR management? he regularly jumps in stakes depending on what his current life savings amounts to.


by ShoeMakerLevy9 k

Paisting's bankroll management is elite level. It's just unbelievable.

You couldn't be further from the truth. He has taken many loans for poker, and cannot even afford to eat properly. After losing 50 000 buy-ins at NL2 he decided to move up the stakes.

This is what he said 5 years ago:

by Paisting k

I have huge amounts of loans that are basically all taken for poker. I don't eat much and all my other costs are very low.

And because of those loans I must get back so much money that is possible and these suck outs must stop.


I haven't followed Paisting as long as you guys did but that definitely seems like terrible BR management. I take back what I said about his BRM. Anyway it's still amazing to me that he doesn't gamble it all away in a few hours giving his behavior.


by MastaAces k

i must know, why do you care so much about your blinds? i am genuinely curious. you take it as a personal insult if someone in late position raises when you are in the big blind. wtf? that is part of a sound preflop strategy.

He takes it as a personal insult if he's in the cutoff and lojack opens lets be real here.


Paisting if you treated blinds as an offering you would do so much better


by Paisting k

If there is chat online it's part of the game. Who handles that mental game better is master of that aspect. Like you play at live table you can use verbal game.

There hasn't been chat on 888 or many sites like many years, so when Achmed and others are bringing those up again and again, it's just shows that I was highly under their skin and head.

Not many players understand that this kind of chat is actually a display of strong, aggressive mental game. That's what poker is all about.


by Paisting k

If there is chat online it's part of the game. Who handles that mental game better is master of that aspect. Like you play at live table you can use verbal game.

There hasn't been chat on 888 or many sites like many years, so when Achmed and others are bringing those up again and again, it's just shows that I was highly under their skin and head.

And when they whine and complain about your chat and speech play, you are showing them who is who


So he one meal a days it at some 10EUR chinese buffet, now that’s pretty funny.

Imagine what a miracle it is to even born as a human. Then he wins another jackpot and gets to live in 7 years in a row happiest country in the world. But Paisting says fk it, I will punish God and be the first person ever to dedicate and ruin their life playing NL2.

What an absolute boss move. I’d like to see Achmed do that.


Oh and by the way Paisting, that graph Achmed posted is what a positive EV line looks like. He ran 2000bb under ev as well and still kicked the everloving piss out of you for 32k hands

That's what the graph looks like when the player actually knows what they're doing.

Contrary to what you believe Paisting, these things actually are possible if you ever took the time to actually learn how to play properly.


Paisting, if you don't mind a question;

Who is who?


Watched an episode of RoadRunner and couldn't help comparing Paisting to Wiley Coyote. He should trade mark the term "running over" meaning to shove 100 or more BB when facing a min raise.

There could be money in this for you my friend.

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