President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by lozen k

If he is charged...

Charged with what?


by lozen k

Why doesn’t the journalist just release all the texts if they are classified as he claims . If he is charged he can use the defense secretary’s own words they were not classified

Or is it possible it wasn’t classified?

Definitely a massive mistake adding the journalist to the text message can’t fathom how that happens

Have you heard him explain in detail why not? It's so detailed he is worried that it will compromise our national security and endanger lives.


by GTO2.0 k

So, they’re gonna go with “We wuz hacked…but also it wasn’t that bad anyways cause it wasn’t really secret…but you can’t see what we said… also that reporter should be strung up for sharing it”.

Thing is, it’ll work.

No they are going with "a staffer did it" last time i checked


by Luciom k

No they are going with "a staffer did it" last time i checked

Might be tough for Elon to figure that out from digital trail. Maybe they have some analysis of finger pressure patterns that can clear Walz?

Seriously tho - you’re going to let your staffer be in charge of adding people to this? Didn’t say that right away either, needed time to ID a fall Guy?


by GTO2.0 k

Might be tough for Elon to figure that out from digital trail. Maybe they have some analysis of finger pressure patterns that can clear Walz?

Seriously tho - you’re going to let your staffer be in charge of adding people to this? Didn’t say that right away either, needed time to ID a fall Guy?

After some reluctance to clarify, Waltz took responsibility for having organized the chat basically claiming his job is to coordinate or whatever.

Then he said the profile pic of Goldberg looked like a guy he wanted in the chat (didn't say who) and/or the initials are the same or whatever.

Then claimed he must have been added by a staffer.


by Didace k

Charged with what?

Witnessing the Trump's administration's incompetence and telling others about it.


by Luciom k

After some reluctance to clarify, Waltz took responsibility for having organized the chat basically claiming his job is to coordinate or whatever.

Then he said the profile pic of Goldberg looked like a guy he wanted in the chat (didn't say who) and/or the initials are the same or whatever.

Then claimed he must have been added by a staffer.

I just do not understand why they would just not come out and say we screwed up in adding the journalist to the text chain and it was a bad mistake and luckily no lives were in danger or harmed.

Was it classified material at the time yes but once the attacks occurred I don't see it as classified

Waltz should step down over this

As for the Signal app I thought it was one of the most secure apps though the phones they were using may be less secure


by Luciom k

After some reluctance to clarify, Waltz took responsibility for having organized the chat basically claiming his job is to coordinate or whatever.

Then he said the profile pic of Goldberg looked like a guy he wanted in the chat (didn't say who) and/or the initials are the same or whatever.

Then claimed he must have been added by a staffer.

Had not seen those specific details, thank you.

These explanations conflict with one another. Do you think Americans should be comfortable with this man holding a top military position?


by lozen k

Was it classified material at the time yes but once the attacks occurred I don't see it as classified

I’m not a military guy, but I think there’s plenty of detail in there that you don’t want getting out even after the deed is done.

Like- what kind of weapons you have available there, your general approach to these type of operations, what you are considering in carrying it out, who is involved in the decision making processes and what their points of view are, what the actual target was, etc.

You never see stuff with this level of detail like ever. They keep **** like this locked down from WW2 except for some snippets in museums and whatnot.


by GTO2.0 k

Had not seen those specific details, thank you.

These explanations conflict with one another. Do you think Americans should be comfortable with this man holding a top military position?

They should all resign.

The military is a rules based system, where leaders need to set the example of the people under them. If you don't do this, you just open the door for more incompetence, and lack of accountability.

This is not complicated... at all. Will it happen? Maybe one head will roll, but they should all be gone.


by lozen k

I just do not understand why they would just not come out and say we screwed up in adding the journalist to the text chain and it was a bad mistake and luckily no lives were in danger or harmed.

Was it classified material at the time yes but once the attacks occurred I don't see it as classified

Waltz should step down over this

As for the Signal app I thought it was one of the most secure apps though the phones they were using may be less secure

LOL because they are craven idiots like you???

what about the last 10 years makes you think these ****ing idiots would admit to ANY wrong doing?

****ing dumb ****s every MAGAT


under 3 months it took these ****ing idiots to prove everyone correct about how ****ing stupid and inexperienced they are


by lozen k

I just do not understand why they would just not come out and say we screwed up in adding the journalist to the text chain and it was a bad mistake and luckily no lives were in danger or harmed.

Really? Have you ever heard Trump or one of his appointees admit to having screwed up?


by lozen k

I just do not understand why they would just not come out and say we screwed up in adding the journalist to the text chain and it was a bad mistake and luckily no lives were in danger or harmed.

Was it classified material at the time yes but once the attacks occurred I don't see it as classified

Waltz should step down over this

As for the Signal app I thought it was one of the most secure apps though the phones they were using may be less secure



It must be such a field day for ennemies intelligence services.
All you can eat !

Imagine how secure assets on the terrain are/feel right now.
Not just american assets btw.


by chillrob k

Really? Have you ever heard Trump or one of his appointees admit to having screwed up?

To be fair to Trump he did just say someone may have screwed up

'Somebody in my group either screwed up, or it’s a bad signal'

Probably the closest you'll get

Spoiler
Show

Defo a bad signal


btw...i don't give a **** about "why they won't admit they were wrong". i know why they won't admit it.

i want to know why they DID IT and likely continue to DO IT.

do they have a Discord channel for this **** too? ****ing idiots


by coordi k

Its kind of arbitrary on the edge cases.

If they say the chat was unclassified and the transcript shows they talked about F-18s firing lrasms at houthi ships off the coast of yemen monday morning then they are pretty cooked.

thats an example specifically called out as "top secret"


Lesser examples are still considered secret

https://sgp.fas.org/library/quist2/chap_...

Damn sometimes I really nail this ****


NPR: Days after the Signal leak, the Pentagon warned the app was the target of hackers

Several days after top national security officials accidentally included a reporter in a Signal chat about bombing Houthi sites in Yemen, a Pentagon-wide advisory warned against using the messaging app, even for unclassified information.

"A vulnerability has been identified in the Signal Messenger Application," begins the department-wide email, dated March 18 and obtained by NPR.

The memo continues, "Russian professional hacking groups are employing the 'linked devices' features to spy on encrypted conversations." It notes that Google has identified Russian hacking groups that are "targeting Signal Messenger to spy on persons of interest."

Source:


This cabinet is a historic mockery. But I guess when all you do is hire people who are loyal to you as the main qualification, it has to go this way.

I cannot stop laughing.


by chillrob k

Really? Have you ever heard Trump or one of his appointees admit to having screwed up?

You're not a *tough* guy if you ever admit you're wrong. This is part of the brand.

It's also how narcissist function coincidently.


by #Thinman k

i want to know why they DID IT and likely continue to DO IT.

They did it to, ironically, avoid a situation like this


by #Thinman k

btw...i don't give a **** about "why they won't admit they were wrong". i know why they won't admit it.

i want to know why they DID IT and likely continue to DO IT.

do they have a Discord channel for this **** too? ****ing idiots

they do it for the same reason Hillary had her server and many others had similar arrangements. Because the "official" channels are a bore to use, they want to be able to chat when they have 5 min between a meeting and a tv appearance and they are traveling and the like.

It's just lazyness/comfort


by Luciom k

they do it for the same reason Hillary had her server and many others had similar arrangements. Because the "official" channels are a bore to use, they want to be able to chat when they have 5 min between a meeting and a tv appearance and they are traveling and the like.

It's just lazyness/comfort

But should they be executed on sight?


by Didace k

Charged with what?

in most countries while he did no wrong by being entered into the group by others - he did leak state secrets by publishing about them

like wikileaks, julian assange still faced legal issues despite that he was just given the docs rather than stealing them himself

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