President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
it isn't and even experts on your side admit that.
it's not like Trump invented the idea, it was discussed in obscure niches of the legal discipline before Trump was ever president, just ask rococo if you don't trust me.
I heard people discuss whether it was possible. I didn't hear people urging Obama to do it. And I don't think Trump (or Obama) would have the better side of the argument in that scenario.
I just answered your question. I agree it was such a dumb question it might as well have been a strawman.
You didn't. You posted an alternative scenario and tried to resolve this one. This scenario is not resolved, and if it comes to it, SCOTUS will resolve it.
Obama can be Secretary of State right now. Full Stop. There is no requirement that the SoS has to be eligible to be president. No SCOTUS decision needed.
that wasn't the first time. the British empire risked collapse over tariffs in the mid 19th century, that's when Ricardo was writing.
this time it's FAR less relevant than back then.
in Ricardo time and in FDR time. even if you completely ban all trade forever Americans would live fine anyway (ofc worse than they would with trade).
when food isn't abundantly available for everyone , tariffs can be life or death. that isn't the case now so now it's far less insane to try them yet again, althoight i
So you not only needed a time machine for your ridiculous whataboutism but one that could travel across continents.
Nope. This was really simple stuff. Only you got confused.
Just because we don't need courts to help us answer some of the simple stuff that confuses you doesn't mean we don't need courts.
He is a god damned moron, but also the Republicans who are busy destroying the rule of law and any semblance of democracy have decided that it's just fine and dandy to intentionally deny all kinds of due process or defy the constitution as some kind of a test where you're just prodding around waiting for courts to decided if it was ok. Oh, that's not allowed? Well, that's what courts are for. Haha.
Obama can be Secretary of State right now. Full Stop. There is no requirement that the SoS has to be eligible to be president. No SCOTUS decision needed.
FWIW :
The Cabinet has 15 members, of which the secretary of state is highest and fourth in line (after the Senate president pro tem); the other Cabinet secretaries follow in the order of when their departments (or the department of which their department is the successor) were created. Those heads of department who are constitutionally not "eligible to the Office of President" are disqualified from assuming the powers and duties of the president through succession and skipped to the next in line.
In all situation , every turn has rules to prevent a person becoming a dictator by being able to stay in power too long .
I guess it’s impossible to cover all aspect possible .
But the spirit of the law in every situation says someone ineligible to be president by being elected couldn’t become the president .
I doubt the SC would go against it and look at what it would need to happen …
President step down , then vp step down , etc .
Isn’t that prove of trying to subvert democracy and the constitution?
That is what dictatorship try to does and does that promotes that kind of ideology obviously aren’t for democracies .
Isn’t what differentiating democracies from any other system is the requirement of being elected , voted for , in the first place and not being nominated ?
I missed the beginning of this discussion, but if it's about Trump...there's no effing way he's going to be on the ticket as VP or appointed SoS and then have people resign. When he says he's seriously thinking about a third term, he means start to finish as POTUS whether that means running again or cancelling elections.
Drafters probably assumed there would still be decorum in the future and there wouldn't be anti american hacks who want to loop hole the constitution for the purpose of consolidating power
Drafters probably assumed the dummies wouldn't be cheering for something so blatantly anti american
No... it's not been said enough honestly. Trump is a Russian asset.
Piles, and piles, and piles of evidence this is the case. But you don't need to believe me, just ask Jr:
In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. said this:
"Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets… We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."
And Trump -
Said Ukraine invaded Russia.
Tried to return seized Russian compounds (2017)—The...
[propaganda puke up]
You see, when you attack Trump with lies it allows him to weaponize the truth against you. This post above is why we are in this situation now, the spirit of it, which has been disseminated by misinformation artists and is 100% demonstrably, incontrovertibly, false.
We debated this in this forum already so I won't derail. Suffice to say if we do not learn this lesson of who is on our side and who is against us (very easy to know but apparently super difficult to accept) things are just going to get worse. We have to deal with facts. We have to deal with truth. You cannot put these fascists the option to retaliate with truth because they will bludgeon us unmercifully with it.
Here is an article published by the most prestigious journalism school in the country. It's by Jeff Gerth, a former NYT reporter. It details the absolute hoax known as Russiagate. You don't have to be a Trump fan to acknowledge the truth.
You see, when you attack Trump with lies it allows him to weaponize the truth against you. This post above is why we are in this situation now, the spirit of it, which has been disseminated by misinformation artists and is 100% demonstrably, incontrovertibly, false.
We debated this in this forum already so I won't derail. Suffice to say if we do not learn this lesson of who is on our side and who is against us (very easy to know but apparently super difficult to accept) things are just going to g
The Russia stuff was mostly lies and exaggerations, but still, the bolded is just not true. We're where we're at because Trump is a big fat fascist idiot and enough people in the USA just love big fat fascist idiots.
Drafters probably assumed there would still be decorum in the future and there wouldn't be anti american hacks who want to loop hole the constitution for the purpose of consolidating power
Drafters probably assumed the dummies wouldn't be cheering for something so blatantly anti american
This is why drafting is important
Always funny some people still doesnt recognize how crooked the mind of trump is .
Always trying to find loophole in trying to stay in power despite losing the election.
Tax fraud.
Sexual misconduct.
And now this thing about being a third term president without being elected as such and promoting it as being it a from of legit democracy.….
And again they wouldn’t never allowed such actions if it was made by democrats.
And of course the only person agreeing with it are those great promoteurs of democracies trough fascism because fascism is such a pure form of democracy ….
Yawn
You see, when you attack Trump with lies it allows him to weaponize the truth against you. This post above is why we are in this situation now, the spirit of it, which has been disseminated by misinformation artists and is 100% demonstrably, incontrovertibly, false.
We debated this in this forum already so I won't derail. Suffice to say if we do not learn this lesson of who is on our side and who is against us (very easy to know but apparently super difficult to accept) things are just going to g
Maybe its not fair to call him an asset. But there is a pretty big difference between "There was no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia to influence the election for him though we found evidence that Russia did do this" and "Trump having uncomfortably close ties to Russia is a hoax, a sham, a lie, and a contributing factor to the single reason we got here"
Have we not wasted enough time taking invalid lines of attack against Trump? You see this is the problem, that the actually bad stuff Trump does makes the corporate Dems cream their pants because they are ALL out enemies. Trump, the Dems, Putin...when are people going to realize these people are class warriors at war with the rest of us?
name when corporate dems (which you think is all but maybe one or two) cream their pants at what trump does?
let's be sure to focus on singapore (which is only the case because it operates as a trade hub which is a unique situation other countries can't replicate) and ignore the other 9
I missed the beginning of this discussion, but if it's about Trump...there's no effing way he's going to be on the ticket as VP or appointed SoS and then have people resign. When he says he's seriously thinking about a third term, he means start to finish as POTUS whether that means running again or cancelling elections.
Don't worry, we were all reliably assured by housenuts before the election that this wouldn't happen.
