"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

You can make skirt steak good. You can make eye round serviceable at best.

Eye of round is pretty useless. I'd rather eat chicken at that point.

Chicken breast has more protein anyway

Too bad Rory is allergic to winning majors

Not today. +800 WOOHOO

if he hadn't won today, I think it would be hard to imagine him ever winning again. Very happy for him, albeit I also really like Justin Rose and there was no 'bad' result for me at the playoff.

such a rollercoaster tournament though and huge drama on the back 9.

Yep I hit on this one too

Rosey is a class act. Now that Rory has his slam, he’s likely the next guy I’m hoping will get one.

Rory never makes it easy on himself.

Rose had 10 birdies today!

I was a bit surprised what a non-factor Bryson ended up being. Was happy for Rory in the end - glad he closed after almost beating himself

Very happy for Rory, but goddamn, it really didn't have to be that hard.

Wow, that is certainly bucking the trend.

Our tables were 10 handed since the casino started in 2005, but last year finally dropped to 9 handed.

Of course the goal is for the room to get more tables going = more rake, although I'm not convinced as 9 handed can often get much shorter more quickly (especially if there's too many tables for the amount of players) where there are a lot more small non-max rake pots (due to raise/takeit or HU pots that end right away), whereas 10 handed sees a lot more max rake pots (due to being more multiway and going to later streets), imo. I think it actually makes sense for a room limited to just 4 tables to play more handed (from a rake gathering perspective) since they don't have the ability to add extra rake earning tables.

Our room actually had an informal poll a couple of years before (drop a coin in a 9 handed vs 10 handed bucket, lol) and 10 handed won out (slightly) as the preferred table size amongst the patrons.

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i miss the covid 7 max tables. and the casino shortened sit out times and instituted 3rd man walking.

the OMCs had no idea what to do being so short all the time. it was printing money.

10 handed is the absolute wurst. they might as well just hand you a book to read when you sit down

Just bring your Sklansky. let me know if you want me to send you mine

Decade+ ago, my buddy (RIP) traveled thru Deadwood SD where they were playing 12 handed. I can't even...

Assume the coins were loonies.

The rooms I played in went to 8 max during covid and never went back. They make more money and I'm more comfortable without people continually bumping into me. And when the tables are short a couple of players, it is even better.

Was gonna quip the same thing that the rooms closest to me both are 8 cap I believe now which I absolutely love. I dont mind that rake comes around faster because being able to eliminate the earliest position spots means the collective frequency i can open the pot per orbit has increased and since Id argue our largest profit arrives from post flop mistakes*, we have more opportunity to exploit those situations and often times the table has a few people walking so its a 6max game now and good god do i love me some 6-max. was my bread and butter when i played at volume online a long time ago.

*so this is kind of a concatenation of things though - those post flop mistakes are of a frequency larger BECAUSE some % of them are root cause in a preflop mistake but its important to note that our strat grants us the ability to fold in situations where 99% of the pool would put money in and lose. so folding as exploitive nets us an overall increase to our winrate as well.

I may do a PAHWM from a hand I played the last month at 1/3 i'll post up that I think exemplifies the entirety of the argument above. Was about to comment a little more about it but realized that could influence its purpose too much 😉

Lol, we're all way too cheap to put in a loonie on a vote that doesn't mean anything. I think the room was probably expecting 9 handed to win the vote and thus they could make the move right away to "satisfy their customer demand". But when they vote didn't go that way they did it anyways, cuz that's what they were going to do for the bottom line all along.

IIRC, the floor provided like nickels or dimes that you could vote with. Very informal as you could vote (or not) every time you showed up. And no, 10 handed didn't win cuz I voted a million times (I only voted once).

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I am concerned that 8 handed disguises the drop in poker traffic.

never htought about this - can you say more/extrapolate the concept?

the drop would be the same if hands/hr dealt are teh same along with avg pot size theoretically wouldnt it?

I guess the big factor would be our involvement in more pots means we our directly affected at a higher frequency then?

I mean if you get the same number of tables on 8 max that you were getting on 9 max, there are fewer people playing poker. Meanwhile the casino seems as full as 5 years ago when it's probably not the case.

ohhh lol i misinterpreted "drop" as the rake drop

I hate 10 handed.

I won 3 buy ins playing 10 handed on Saturday and that includes losing a QQ vs KK aipf for a 4 buy in pot.

Game had ALL the good players you want to make a game great. And still not that great.

10 handed sucks. 8 handed is the future. More tables, more dealers, more rake. Bellagio for all its faults, gets that correct.

Happy Tax Day, degens.

Did Federal return last night. NBD. But now I have to do two state returns for my wife, both of which are super complicated because she isn't a resident of one and she is, but I'm not in the other, plus the wrong local taxes got withheld on one and special rules for military spouses. FML.