RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.
Crazy part about the vaccine is it never hurts close relatives of sane and otherwise intelligent people that’s testimony would be believed.
That almost always means they got sick and blame it on the vaccine without the slightest reason to do so.
Well, sure. I suppose the word "legitimate" was only implied there.
I remember you claiming this then admitting you were wrong when we already discussed this and you "forgot" college students who had already paid tuition got kicked out unless they vaccinated *even if the colleges were fully remote* (think of how insanely evil those people have been).And no medical and religious exceptions weren't allowed basically ever for the covid vaccine (me
None of this has anything to do with the fact that lots of people complaining about these things never got vaccinated, so it wasn't very mandatory.
Yes, the students should have gotten their money back, as I'm sure I said before. But I still have never heard of this issue from anyone but you, so I'm sure it happened very rarely.
ROFL at blaming Biden for the FDA approving the vaccine that was a routine approval. If anything, it took way too long to get full approval. Luciom making up bad faith reaches again.
None of this has anything to do with the fact that lots of people complaining about these things never got vaccinated, so it wasn't very mandatory.
Yes, the students should have gotten their money back, as I'm sure I said before. But I still have never heard of this issue from anyone but you, so I'm sure it happened very rarely.
Should I remind you the mass mandate was struck by courts because of blatant unconstitutionality? Otherwise all employees of all firms with 100+ employees would have risked their job everywhere in the country.
And that didn't happen only because of exceptionally vocal opposition to it and massive resources spent for the legal battle necessary to avoid that violation of the constitution.
As for the students it happened very little because many bent to the violent blackmail and got the vaccine even if they couldn't care less to vaccinate for a disease that was completely irrelevant for them (or that they already had got).
You can gauge how many people took the vaccine only because mandates by measuring how many took it in each demographic in the states and areas with almost no mandates vs howany did with many mandates (like you couldn't go to the restaurant if you weren't vaccinated).
It is tens of millions of people
ROFL at blaming Biden for the FDA approving the vaccine that was a routine approval. If anything, it took way too long to get full approval. Luciom making up bad faith reaches again.
It wasn't a routine approval at all given the timing, AND it fulfilled absolutely no role at all except allowing mandates to start popping up.
Mandates were an absolute crime. Millions of people were forced to take a vaccine with no long term safety data.
The culprits responsible for the mandates should be in prison.
Were you forced to get the vaccine?
Oh, never mind, I know you weren't, because no one was.
No. I wasn't mandated. Fortunately I didn't have to choose between getting a vaccine and feeding my family and not getting a vaccine and not feeding my family.
A lot did though.
And before you say they still had a choice, threatening someone with the removal of their ability to feed their family is not freedom of choice. It's using force.
No. I wasn't mandated. Fortunately I didn't have to choose between getting a vaccine and feeding my family and not getting a vaccine and not feeding my family.
A lot did though.
And before you say they still had a choice, threatening someone with the removal of their ability to feed their family is not freedom of choice. It's using force.
In this thread, blowie proves once again that he can’t understand the difference between “force” and “consequence” in everyday usage.
No one ever was threatened with removal of their ability to feed their family if they didn't vaccinate. There are and were plenty of jobs available that don't require vaccination. Sorry if it's not your favorite job, but there are still plenty of jobs out there.
Also, let's not forget that businesses are free to require vaccination if they so choose. BJ knows this, since the last time this topic came up, he ran away with his tail between his legs rather than admit that businesses should have that ability. Hell, that was probably only a couple of pages ago in this thread.
Any sort of coercion or threat of loss of employment is using force.
Not my fault if you morons can't understand the meaning of words. Maybe look up a dictionary.
The people who think the vaccine killed their friends and family are just a slightly different flavor of the people who fraudulently wrote "killed by COVID" on countless death certificates.
Got in a car accident, revived twice on the way to the hospital, with a BAC of 0.29? Well, he tested positive for COVID, so I guess that's what got him.
Any sort of coercion or threat of loss of employment is using force.
Not my fault if you morons can't understand the meaning of words. Maybe look up a dictionary.
Do you agree that current federal government employees are being forced to give up their first amendment right to free speech because otherwise Trump will fire them?
Any sort of coercion or threat of loss of employment is using force.
Not my fault if you morons can't understand the meaning of words. Maybe look up a dictionary.
A dictionary is a listing of lexemes from the lexicon of one or more specific languages, often arranged alphabetically (or by consonantal root for Semitic languages or radical and stroke for logographic languages), which may include information on definitions, usage, etymologies, pronunciations, translation, etc.[1][2][3] It is a lexicographical reference that shows inter-relationships among the data.[4]
How does that help explain your stupidity?
The people who think the vaccine killed their friends and family are just a slightly different flavor of the people who fraudulently wrote "killed by COVID" on countless death certificates.
Got in a car accident, revived twice on the way to the hospital, with a BAC of 0.29? Well, he tested positive for COVID, so I guess that's what got him.
I suppose you have proof of the widespread felony fraud you are accusing doctors and medical examiners of. You know, court cases for these trivially easy to prove cases (since even you know about them, let alone motivated prosecutors) that would be huge stories for the media and readily accessible through public record, right?
Can't wait to see it.
For the record, zero cases that were counted as covid deaths were from car accidents. To be counted as covid deaths, you must have covid be one of the primary causes in the chain of events that leads to death on the death certificate, which would not be the case for a car accident.
You should probably also know that having covid was enough in some places early in the pandemic, but the cdc standardized this for all reporters very early in the pandemic and all such cases were changed in the official count at that time.
In other words, as usual, you are FOS. Can't wait to get up in the morning and read those court cases and not your stupid excuses for believing this obvious bs in the absence of them!
The people who think the vaccine killed their friends and family are just a slightly different flavor of the people who fraudulently wrote "killed by COVID" on countless death certificates.
Got in a car accident, revived twice on the way to the hospital, with a BAC of 0.29? Well, he tested positive for COVID, so I guess that's what got him.
i don't think that was the intention, it was just some people took data of people who died with covid as "people who died because of covid"
same thing with the reports of all the children hospitalized with covid - when you actually looked at the cases, it was kids who broke an arm and while getting that fixed the docs noticed he was coughing and tested him and found he had covid
i don't think that was the intention, it was just some people took data of people who died with covid as "people who died because of covid"
Nobody was taking those numbers in the way you mean here. The unfortunate confusion arises from some places counting anyone that died from covid as a covid death early on. This was publicized in a few instances.
The CDC issued a directive in about April or May of 2020 standardizing a covid death to be counted only when covid is listed on the death certificate in the chain of events directly leading to death. They then went through all deaths up to that point and corrected the count to reflect this change retroactively.
So, while you can find public statements about the policy being "with covid" from very early on in some places, this was quickly changed and fixed.
Everyone that is currently counted as a covid death has covid on their death certificate in the events that directly caused the death. And falsification of a death certificate is a felony (fraud). With all the scrutiny on that sort of thing, nonsense like a car accident counted as a covid death would've been caught and prosecuted.
According to experts in this forum, Trump could mandate wearing MAGA hats nationwide and it wouldn't be "forcing" if the penalty was just not being legally allowed to be hired if they don't.
ANY state penalty for failing to execute a state mandate is FORCE (or threat thereof).
No one ever was threatened with removal of their ability to feed their family if they didn't vaccinate. There are and were plenty of jobs available that don't require vaccination. Sorry if it's not your favorite job, but there are still plenty of jobs out there.Also, let's not forget that businesses are free to require vaccination if they so choose. BJ knows this, since the las
Can businesses require you to take any other drug or treatment or dietary supplement or forbid you to take any?
Btw the bold is false for various states, that forbid those mandates.
