President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Gorgonian

FBI/DOJ. Not president. The Attorney General has that control. The president has control over who directs them, but not direct control of the actions. Their actions are to be independent.

again, do a little fact checking, you'll see the president absolutely has the power to step in and release that

if biden is fighting for his life to win an election against trump and if trump were on that list, it's not a stretch to believe he would have made the magic work to have it released unless it also damaged him and his allies as well

you're not as dumb as a bag of rocks, but you have major blind spots and snap insulting the notion because it came from a trumptard you despise and then dying on that hill trying to use semantics to "still be technically right" is one of them


by rickroll

again, do a little fact checking, you'll see the president absolutely has the power to step in and release that

I did and you are wrong. Glad I could help.


would you like to make a $100 wager - i'm happy to have roc be the arbiter over whether or not the president can make it happen


you don't need to escrow, but you'll agree that if you refuse payment when you lose that your account will be perma banned


by rickroll

would you like to make a $100 wager - i'm happy to have roc be the arbiter over whether or not the president can make it happen

I'm sure you remember I no longer make such bets. But you could just provide your source instead of this stupidity. Unlike you, I'm not emotionally invested in this. If you have a point to prove, prove it or stfu. You're boring. And I'm not happy to let some other rando determine if it's right. Unlike you, I require evidence and sources, not assertions.


by Gorgonian

I'm sure you remember I no longer make such bets. But you could just provide your source instead of this stupidity. Unlike you, I'm not emotionally invested in this. If you have a point to prove, prove it or stfu. You're boring. And I'm not happy to let some other rando determine if it's right. Unlike you, I require evidence and sources, not assertions.

weird how you're happy to insult me because i'm so deeply wrong on this issue but then pass up the opportunity for free money, a trivial amount at that

you are a pathetic coward who hides behind anonymous keyboard insults and lack substance both to your arguments and as a person


like i'm even offering someone you view as dear leader to be the arbiter of truth on this matter and you still pass on it because deep down you know you are wrong and roc will confirm that he is a standup guy who will rule on this correctly and not ideologically like you


by rickroll

weird how you're happy to insult me

I insult you because you're an emotionally insecure moron. That you're wrong here is just incidental (though extremely common).

by rickroll

because i'm so deeply wrong on this issue

It's kind of boolean. You're either wrong or not.

by rickroll

but then pass up the opportunity for free money, a trivial amount at that

I neither care about this issue enough to waste my time on it, nor especially care about the money. Even if I did, I long ago promised my wife I would never do it again. I stick to that 100%. I haven't played a hand of poker since 2009 and haven't made a prop bet or other wager since 2007. I'm not changing that for your stupid crap.

by rickroll

you are a pathetic coward who hides behind anonymous keyboard insults and lack substance both to your arguments and as a person

Cry more. Notice how many posts you made attacking me without trying to prove your assertion? I noticed.


by rickroll

like i'm even offering someone you view as dear leader

tf is this nonsense? I don't view anyone as "dear leader." effing weirdo

by rickroll

to be the arbiter of truth on this matter

Why do we need an arbiter? Just support your claim, df.

It would be great if you could get over your boner for harassing me and just support your claim like an adult instead of this string of sht you spew whenever I say something that gets under your skin for whatever lame reason.


by Gorgonian

tf is this nonsense? I don't view anyone as "dear leader." effing weirdo

again you opt for semantics to be "technically correct"

the point is you are roc are ideologically aligned and only a room temp iq individual would read that tongue in cheek joke as anything other than that

you do realize one of the great marks of stupidity is an inability to think in the abstract right?

by Gorgonian

Why do we need an arbiter? Just support your claim, df.

It would be great if you could get over your boner for harassing me and just support your claim like an adult instead of this string of sht you spew whenever I say something that gets under your skin for whatever lame reason.

i mean you can literally google "can the president release the epstein files" and you'll find dozens of news articles which clearly explain how the president can do that but you'd rather make it as difficult as possible and put the onus on me to explain how - which you have no intention of taking seriously but simply trying to pick apart again with semantics and technicalities

you're asking me to hand feed you in bad faith and i have no interest in wasting time to do so


by rickroll

again you opt for semantics to be "technically correct"

No, you just made crap up and got called out on it again.

by rickroll

the point is you are roc are ideologically aligned and only a room temp iq individual would read that tongue in cheek joke as anything other than that

The point is you exaggerate to try to make your point reasonable and don't like it when your exaggeration gets called out. Cry more.

by rickroll

you do realize one of the great marks of stupidity is an inability to think in the abstract right?

I realize you are swiping like a kindergarten all over this page with markers of stupidity. Please, keep it up. It's amusing af.

by rickroll

i mean you can literally google "can the president release the epstein files" and you'll find dozens of news articles which clearly explain how the president can do that but you'd rather make it as difficult as possible and put the onus on me to explain how - which you have no intention of taking seriously but simply trying to pick apart again with semantics and technicalities

I have googled as many variants of that as I can think of and have not found one single thing that says the president has the authority to release something he doesn't have (the files are under the control of the DOJ via the FBI). It's odd that you keep saying it's easy to find but haven't shown it. Can he order Pam Bondi to release them? Sure. Does she have to do it? Nope. Can he fire her if she doesn't? Sure. Can he do it anyway (illegally)? Sure. But not legally.

The entire point is Joe Biden was never going to overstep his authority to order that because he maintained that the DOJ was independent of the president. He certainly wasn't going to violate Bell's first principle and ruin that. Even if the president had that authority (he doesn't), Biden was NEVER going to use it in that way because it undermined his principles of separation. The fact that you've spent x posts not getting the basic argument is just LOL at this point.

Not only have I not found a single source supporting your view, and not only have you failed to provide one, but I don't even care about the issue one way or another because it doesn't affect my point at all.

by rickroll

you're asking me to hand feed you in bad faith and i have no interest in wasting time to do so

I'm sure you don't. Run along then. This act is beyond stupid.


by Gorgonian

Why would we just assume Trump being in the Epstein files means he did something nefarious?

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You are scum if you even think of defending this bs.

by Gorgonian

Unlike you, I require evidence and sources, not assertions.

laughing out loud


by housenuts

laughing out loud

jfc

You do realize you edited out THE EVIDENCE, right? Go back and read my post. The entire point is that it wasn't just an assumption. There was evidence.

Here it is again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWnUzvlq...

This is DIRECT TESTIMONY (evidence) of what Trump did to a young girl AT AN EPSTEIN PARTY.

The reason I have you on ignore is because your stupidity is literally painful to read. I suppose I deserve this pain for clicking "view" against my better judgement. Why you people get such a boner to score points against me that you'll post such embarrassing crap I will never understand.


by Gorgonian

jfcYou do realize you edited out THE EVIDENCE, right? Go back and read my post. The entire point is that it wasn't just an assumption. There was evidence.Here it is again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWnUzvlq...This is DIRECT TESTIMONY (evidence) of what Trump did to a young girl AT AN EPSTEIN PARTY.The reason I have you on ignore is because your stupidity is literally painf

A real shocker that Trump is in the Epstein files given this DIRECT TESTIMONY EVIDENCE from 9 years ago. What new did we learn today?

Your view that Trump had sex with underage girls as part of the Epstein syndicate, and this is detailed in the EPSTEIN FILES, but Biden/Garland decided to keep this under wraps, makes you look a little foolish. Again, nothing new.


by housenuts

A real shocker that Trump is in the Epstein files given this DIRECT TESTIMONY EVIDENCE from 9 years ago. What new did we learn today?

Nothing. This has been known for years. Why do you ask?

by housenuts

Your view that Trump had sex with underage girls as part of the Epstein syndicate, and this is detailed in the EPSTEIN FILES, but Biden/Garland decided to keep this under wraps, makes you look a little foolish. Again, nothing new.

Biden didn't have the authority to release them, nor would he. Garland is a spineless idiot. Where's the surprise? Most likely there are others on the list that were being protected by him or the FBI. This should not be news. It's the whole freaking point, genius.

Not un-noticed was your quick deflection away from getting caught with your pants down, by the way. Accusing me of not providing evidence when I very well did. Anyone with any integrity would have apologized after that. Not you. Liar.


If there's details in the files about Trump sexing underage girls you can bet your ass that is getting released. No serious person would think otherwise.


by checkraisdraw

This is true, the reciprocal argument of moral progress would actually suggest updates in moral opinions should be given more weight than the original opinions. I’m not sure I agree with that position either though, but it does put an epistemic counterpoint to the point luciom is trying to make.Also, as an aside,

Actually i said that age of consent is one of the non-obvious moral ranges.


by housenuts

If there's details in the files about Trump sexing underage girls you can bet your ass that is getting released. No serious person would think otherwise.

Let's hope so.

Liar.


by housenuts

If there's details in the files about Trump sexing underage girls you can bet your ass that is getting released. No serious person would think otherwise.

You seem to not be in touch with reality.


by Land O Lakes

You seem to not be in touch with reality.

Reality is he needs to pretend to believe that in order to save face.


by Land O Lakes

You seem to not be in touch with reality.

We must live in different simulations. In your universe, Biden/Garland keep such evidence from the public and allow an underage sex offender to run for president/be president, for the good of the public.

Interesting variant to live in.

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I assume Biden was going to bring it up in the debate, before the sharp as a tack man faltered catastrophically


by Gorgonian

Reality is he needs to pretend to believe that in order to save face.

You guys are the ones pretending to believe there is evidence in the Epstein Files that Trump had sex with underage girls.

I am believing a) common sense, b) evidence


Get a room, you two.


by housenuts

We must live in different simulations. In your universe, Biden/Garland keep such evidence from the public and allow an underage sex offender to run for president/be president, for the good of the public.

Interesting variant to live in.

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I assume Biden was going to bring it up in the debate, before the sharp as a tack man faltered catastrophically

So we're going back to Biden? Sounded like you were talking in the present tense. The only way it gets released in the present day is if those were some of the documents Elon stole during his tenure.

I would think if Trump is in there with such specificity, those were part of the papers Trump likes to flush down the toilet.


by Crossnerd

Get a room, you two.

it's more of a 4 way and since it'll be in a hotel...


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roc can also arbitrate this too 😀

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