President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
You guys got awful mad when we said "abolish ICE".
Which events are you referring to here? they are rioting because of perfectly legal raids in which illegals are captured to be deported as the law requires.
I could understand rioting if law enforcement was not applying the law . but rioting because laws are enforced isn't something you should defend imo.
Hint: they were not all illegals
you literally wrote this
I could understand rioting if law enforcement was not applying the law
I didn't say anything about right or wrong.
You actually said more than me lol.
you literally wrote this
I didn't say anything about right or wrong.
You actually said more than me lol.
i would personally understand/justify rioting against law enforcement arresting innocent people yes. I would do it more if the rioting was targeted to the actual perpetrators like say a group of ICE ppl illegally arrests a bunch of citizens/legal permanent residents and you and others block their cars and burn them.
It's not immoral in my worldview to use violence against people using violence illegally, in general. It's actually morally good to do that.
I am asking if that's what has happened/is happening in LA. Because i see this photos circulating of masked people rioting with mexico flags, that doesn't seem about legal residents being arrested.
I agree that India and the later colonies had the right to repel the occupying Brits with violence.
I am also unsure how ransacking shops is justified even if law enforcement behaved illegally btw
I agree that India and the later colonies had the right to repel the occupying Brits with violence.
I understand this only if you admit the same was true for Hindu indians and the muslim invaders that got them before the british did.
Were they fully justified to massacre all muslims to free themselves from foreign occupation?
I don’t know much about that part of India’s history I’m afraid and I’m not inclined to take your word for what happened.
Link?
I don’t know much about that part of India’s history I’m afraid and I’m not inclined to take your word for what happened.
Link?
I mean you don't know that immediatly before the british colonized india, it had been colonized for centuries by foreign muslims?
Clearly if you’re talking about an actual attempt at occupation and not the far right definition the people about to be occupied have the right to violently repel them but unlike you I don’t think that’s always the right thing to do.
And it’s interesting to see you support the Palestinians right to repel the IDF and the West Bank Israeli settlers with violence.
Clearly if you’re talking about an actual attempt at occupation and not the far right definition the people about to be occupied have the right to violently repel them but unlike you I don’t think that’s always the right thing to do.
I don't because i don't recognize any "palestine" exists, not palestinian people. They are just middle eastern arabs and they have several nation-states for their ethnic religious group in the area and that's where they should have gone to to begin with, decades ago.
And them insisting to stay there anyway doesn't generate any claim to those areas, which were never theirs to begin with. Before the british, it wasn't theirs either.
As for the hindus i am asking after the occupation, generations later, if a right still exists to rebel, which is what you claimed they had against the british. If they had it against the british, they did have it against the muslim invaders, even if the invasion happened say in 1350, and it was 1650, right? the claim never expires right? so muslims will FOREVER be illegal occupants of those lands, znd at any time any actual hindu would be fully morally justified to use unlimited violence to eliminate muslim presence in those lands right?
100% planned.
hopefully there are a lot of deaths. it's the only way eyes open.
I don't because i don't recognize any "palestine" exists, not palestinian people. They are just middle eastern arabs and they have several nation-states for their ethnic religious group in the area and that's where they should have gone to to begin with, decades ago.And them insisting to stay there anyway doesn't generate any claim to those areas, which were never theirs to beg
If the Palestinians “should have gone somewhere else to begin with” maybe Israel shouldn’t have been created to begin with?
But it is what it is, and there should be no expectation of Palestinians to leave the area any more than Israelis. Or maybe, as I’ve suggested before, both sets of people should go and live in the US, Canada or Australia.
As for your continuation of the India thing, there’s a separate thread for that.
And this is also in the wrong thread. Apologies.
The start of this is a questionable policy of mass deportation, designed to send a message not for efficacy. And yes, the escalation of these events with the National Guard is designed to circumvent local autonomy.If there were mass fires and looting I could see the public safety interest but at this point most of the footage I see shows people standing around for the most part
Boo Hoo! Enter the country legally next time.
Why would you want to abolish ICE? Do you like open borders? Do you like gangs and terrorists sneaking into the country? Do you like drugs easily smuggled into the country? Do you like criminals and rapists and human traffickers having easy access?
esp if its to install another Democrat given the last few have deported more people, drastically increased ICE funding, and stripped regulations ICE.
its almost like the Dems are sad they arent the ones in charge of this.
It's being done the right way this time. I know the criminal defenders are butt hurt but.......CARE!
eggs...omelets. it's just like kicking people off their healthcare.
hopefully it happens sooner than later
There will be a lot of deaths if these rioters are left unchecked.
Maybe it's better to let them do what they usually do and burn down their local businesses and cause damage to the place they live. Just build a perimeter and let them go like the BLM rioters. Just make sure the good citizens are protected.
hopefully you are one of the magats caught in the crossfire
Why wouldn't people support the deportation of people in this country illegally?

