Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Talk about some breaking news!

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by Dunyain

I doubt there is any curiosity what that is a list of. But regardless, I'll tell you. These are families of Nigerians that were massacred by Islamists a couple days ago. I will be holding my breathe waiting for outrage from the anti-Zionist left and protest marches in London over this. Just kidding. Dont kid yourself. The western left has picked their side, and that side

Don’t be so stupid. Western media has never much cared about deaths in Africa. Even famine is treated like porn.

Most people had never even heard this was going on.


by jalfrezi

Don’t be so stupid. Western media has never much cared about deaths in Africa. Even famine is treated like porn.

Most people had never even heard this was going on.

Does this mean that Western media determines what you care and dont care about?

Are you really telling me that all the people constantly marching against Israel in London dont know about Islamist massacres in Africa that have been going on for decades? I am calling bullshit on that. They know, they just dont care or they are Islamist themselves and support it.


Rumors are ships are currently burning in the Persian Gulf (unknown who is attacking who) and the US is mobilizing a lot of forces, obstensibly to get involved.


by Dunyain

It is funny. Most people agree if the low intensity dynamic that the IRGC and its proxies (Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, Shiite Iraq militias) have perpetuated the last few years continues they will eventually slowly destroy Israel. So de facto committing genocide. Except apparently in this case genocide is perfectly fine. And you acknowledge in your own words that what Israel

The state was started by kicking hundreds of thousands of people off their land and concentrating them in small areas. If you were writing a screenplay for it, at best you could portray Israel as an understandable antagonist who got screwed over and is going to take it out on people who had nothing to do with the screwing.

Did the Algerians genocide the French? As I've mentioned in this thread, I am in favor of the US giving every Israeli full citizenship (even the ones who should be given Nuremberg trials) as a sort of analogous escape valve.


by Dunyain

Does this mean that Western media determines what you care and dont care about?

Are you really telling me that all the people constantly marching against Israel in London dont know about Islamist massacres in Africa that have been going on for decades? I am calling bullshit on that. They know, they just dont care or they are Islamist themselves and support it.

You said these happened a couple of days ago. I didn’t see it covered by the MSM here but with everything else going on murders in West Africa wouldn’t get much attention.

Of course lots of people know something about Boko Haram and you’re being very stupid again.


by Pompeous

The state was started by kicking hundreds of thousands of people off their land and concentrating them in small areas. If you were writing a screenplay for it, at best you could portray Israel as an understandable antagonist who got screwed over and is going to take it out on people who had nothing to do with the screwing.Did the Algerians genocide the French? As I've mentioned

First off, Israel isn't the one that decided to concentrate the people generationally in the West Bank and Gaza. The rest of the world did that. The world has had 80 years to relocate the Palestinian people, as they have done with countless other refugee populations with similar back stories, and elected not to.

Second, This happened in 1948. There have been countless similar situations that have happened since and are going on in the world today, and you couldn't care less. So excuse me for being skeptical you actually care about people getting kicked off land as a first principle, and dont have ulterior motives.

As just one example of hundreds, how would you describe what happened to the Lebanese Jewish population during the civil war? People were brutally tortured, murdered and ultimately genocided off the land their families had lived peacefully for centuries. No shits given by anyone on the left (except to support the genocide).


by jalfrezi

You said these happened a couple of days ago. I didn’t see it covered by the MSM here but with everything else going on murders in West Africa wouldn’t get much attention.

Of course lots of people know something about Boko Haram.

The irony of course is that elites, and their media conduits, actually do determine what you do and dont care about. Which is exactly why you care so much about the Israel situation and are so indifferent to what is going on in Africa. Because elites want this to be the case.

Also, here you go:

Entire families executed by close range gunfire or burned alive

But you know what they say, no Jews no news.


I’m hardly indifferent to what’s been happening in Nigeria lol.


You cited these as Islamist killings, but it’s nothing of the sort.

The Fulani are a nomadic tribe forced by climate change to roam in new areas that’s brought them into conflict with people settled there.

You are a clown.


While we all turn our heads to Iran and miss out on what is still going on and is already old news, we've entered 50x the death count territory of an Oct 7th to the reported deaths in Gaza.

Still an incredible amount of civilian deaths, even if you take the up the argument that Hamas (whom I wouldn't blame for fighting Israel in the first place) is an army filled with women and 17 year old men.

Israeli strikes on Gaza kill at least 20 as war rages on after the opening of a new front with Iran

At least 20 Palestinians were killed in Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip overnight and into Saturday, according to local health officials. The 20-month war with Hamas has raged on even as Israel has opened a new front with heavy strikes on Iran that sparked retaliatory drone and missile attacks.

Another 11 Palestinians were killed overnight near food distribution points run by an Israeli- and U.S.-supported humanitarian group in the latest of almost daily shootings near the sites since they opened last month. Palestinian witnesses say Israeli forces have fired on the crowds, while the military says it has only fired warning shots near people it describes as suspects who approached its forces.

In the southern city of Khan Younis, Nasser Hospital said it received 16 dead, including five women, from multiple Israeli strikes late Friday and early Saturday. It said another three men were killed near two GHF aid sites in the southernmost city of Rafah


by Victor

like Hezbollah did before, Iran is showing great restraint and focusing mainly on military targets. but yes, everything in Israel is fair game given the type of war that Israel has started. theres a debate on if Iran should, will, or can respond in kind but if they do start hitting hospitals and tv stations and apartment buildings then whatever. Israeli war doctrine is to ma

are we really going to play pretend that Iran ("like Hezbollah"), are focusing mainly on military targets?

They have hit one Military target so far, one civil infrastructure, and many residential buildings, including an Arab village that is no way near any Military targets.

Vic, why do you have to make up reality in order to convey your massage?



Another direct hit this morning on "a military" target that is a few residential houses, no way near an army base or civil infrastructures. No deaths, only light injuries.

As for the WMD discussion – Iran has admitted that they enriched uranium to a level of at least 60%. If not for WMD, what was the purpose of that?


by IMBLUEtheONE

Another direct hit this morning on "a military" target that is a few residential houses, no way near an army base or civil infrastructures. No deaths, only light injuries.

As for the WMD discussion – Iran has admitted that they enriched uranium to a level of at least 60%. If not for WMD, what was the purpose of that?

To assist with all that nuclear power that contributes all of 1% of the total energy they produce...


by bundy5

To assist with all that nuclear power that contributes all of 1% of the total energy they produce...

The uranium enrichment required for energy production is 10%-20%, certainly not 60%


I remember Vic explaining to us that Hez are destroying Israel with no problem and stopping our advances in Lebanon, and that Iran is far superior to us.

Just like Scott Ritter, you were and are a grifter, shifting the goal post with every action Israel does.


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by IMBLUEtheONE

I remember Vic explaining to us that Hez are destroying Israel with no problem and stopping our advances in Lebanon, and that Iran is far superior to us.

Just like Scott Ritter, you were and are a grifter, shifting the goal post with every action Israel does.

ofc I never said Hez would destroy Israel, why do you guys lie so much?

I did think that Hez would stop your invasion and they absolutely stymied it. you were only able to set up military bases AFTER the ceasefire and ofc in direct violation to it bc your Supremacist ideals make you think that rules dont apply to you.

you wanted to occupy all of the south and cleanse it of Muslims like you did in Syria. you wanted to turn Beirut into another vacation spot for Israelis. Hez stopped that. its not over ofc and you commit war crimes every day in South Lebanon and maybe you will succeed due to a fake ceasefire what you couldnt get militarily despite massive advantages in weaponry.


by Luciom

Core MAGA personality

Another perfect example that is almost impossible to find an anti-Israel supporter, that is not antisemitic and a borderline personality


by Victor

ofc I never said Hez would destroy Israel, why do you guys lie so much? I did think that Hez would stop your invasion and they absolutely stymied it. you were only able to set up military bases AFTER the ceasefire and ofc in direct violation to it bc your Supremacist ideals make you think that rules dont apply to you.you wanted to occupy all of the south and cleanse it of Mus

Even the protocols of the elders of zion had more sense...


by IMBLUEtheONE

Another perfect example that is almost impossible to find an anti-Israel supporter, that is not antisemitic and a borderline personality

I find the anti-Israel right more antisemitic than the anti-Israel left these days. Not sure why they thought Trump was anti-Israel , he never gave any signal toward that.


by IMBLUEtheONE

Even the protocols of the elders of zion had more sense...

I get that you think its antisemitic to oppose Israel killing people and destroying homes every single day in Lebanon (in violation to a ceasefire they signed bc ofc). I dont care, so you can save it.


by Victor

I get that you think its antisemitic to oppose Israel killing people and destroying homes every single day in Lebanon (in violation to a ceasefire they signed bc ofc). I dont care, so you can save it.

I don't care about your opinions, I care that every "fact" you claim, is complete bs an usually in contrast to a previous claim of yours.

You have 0 integrity, and mostly 0 connection to reality. The worst actor I ever met


I used to converse with you in good faith, but I learned better.

Keep telling your self you are anti israel and not antisemitic, you almost convinced Jal

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