Israel / Iran thread
Seems like this conflict is not going to end anytime soon and is worthy of its own thread.
Apparently 2 people sacrificed 15 years of their lives with the unique goal of developing a weapon capable of destroying the Fordo facility in Iran.
And subsequent different administrations provided the funds and the secrecy to pursue this goal with continuity
looks like the nothing ever happens/pro western civilization/anti theocratic terrorist's having nuke bros win again
The cease fire holds iran is cucked
Israel was not able to topple the Iranian government. they werent able to install a traitorous comprador regime nor foment a Libya/Syria type chaos situation. their cities are extremely vulnerable to Iranian missiles despite their success with destroying launchers and missile inventory. further, Israeli air defense proved far too costly for the Americans to continue.but this
they left the regime because its weak. You don't replace a weak regime if you don't know what will replace it. Im sure they totally couldn't kill the supreme leader after killing the ranked 2-8 Iranians . I'm 50/50 if they want to topple it or not. They couldn't really without US support but they certainly didn't want to kill the leader
Iranian foreign minister now says the nuclear sites took 'excessive and serious' damage.
right... but they didn't lose ANY SOILDERS.... but you missed the point iran had a 100% civilian kill ratio. Ironic
lol doubt
so what? the country that loses the most soldiers does not always lose the war. ask the Soviets about that.
So again Iran have won, despite their nukes being taken out, their airspace violated, their scientists gone, their supreme leader recently cowering in a bunker and proxies pretty much destroyed?
You never got back to me about this btw
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Again, thoughts??
so like.... if iran has 100% civilian targets would you like to roll back your "its super easy to only target military targets Israel is committing genocide and intentionally targeting civilians"
Because Iran's results suggests its quite hard to not kill civilians just like Russia
So again Iran have won, despite their nukes being taken out, their airspace violated, their scientists gone, their supreme leader recently cowering in a bunker and proxies pretty much destroyed?
You never got back to me about this btw
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Again, thoughts??
its not on his twitter/telegram feed
victor what country do you live in I'm curious
the war isnt over but Iran still exists as as sovereign state so they won this round.
lol at airspace violated. so was Israel's.
as for the spies, they were sentenced in a court of law. and those spies caused massive amount of death in Iran. obv as a Western liberal, I am opposed to the death penalty but I am not going to tell Iran how to run its country while it faces a genocidal existential threat.
the war isnt over but Iran still exists as as sovereign state so they won this round.lol at airspace violated. so was Israel's. as for the spies, they were sentenced in a court of law. and those spies caused massive amount of death in Iran. obv as a Western liberal, I am opposed to the death penalty but I am not going to tell Iran how to run its country while it faces a gen
Lmao. The article says they were suspected of spying. And don't give me that court of law bollix as if a theocratic regime's courts are in any way trustworthy. This smacks of show trials as an excuse to crack down on dissent and repress the population who seem to be growing increasingly tired of the regime. You're unbelievable at times. 😆
so like.... if iran has 100% civilian targets would you like to roll back your "its super easy to only target military targets Israel is committing genocide and intentionally targeting civilians"
Because Iran's results suggests its quite hard to not kill civilians just like Russia
how many civilians did Iran kill? far fewer than Israel. likewise Russia kills far fewer civilians than Israel and Western countries. you really shouldnt bring civilians into this as Israel and the West quite clearly intentionally target them.
anyway, I think its beyond naive to think Iran only hit civilians. even Israeli media doesnt say that.
Lmao. The article says they were suspected of spying. And don't give me that court of law bollix as if a theocratic regime's courts are in any way trustworthy. This smacks of show trials as an excuse to crack down on dissent and repress the population who seem to be growing increasingly tired of the regime. You're unbelievable at times. 😆
seriously, do you have the memory of a goldfish? remember how Mossad operatives launched drones all over Iran to take out air defense? remember how Mossad operatives detonated car bombs to take out a bunch of scientists and commanders?
you think they shouldnt try to arrest and punish those people?
vic I finally convinced my friend that iran was making nukes. I have no faith in you but check out the you tube video titled "How the U.S. was so sure Iran was building a nuclear bomb | About That"
at least watch between min 4-7 thats only 3 minutes of your time. He does a good job at dumbing it down for conspiracy theorists like my friend
how many civilians did Iran kill? far fewer than Israel. likewise Russia kills far fewer civilians than Israel and Western countries. you really shouldn't bring civilians into this as Israel and the West quite clearly intentionally target them.anyway, I think its beyond naive to think Iran only hit civilians. even Israeli media doesnt say that.
well if thats true then certainly iran does too right? right....? 100%....? seems like their trying the hardest to target civilians
seriously, do you have the memory of a goldfish? remember how Mossad operatives launched drones all over Iran to take out air defense? remember how Mossad operatives detonated car bombs to take out a bunch of scientists and commanders?
you think they shouldnt try to arrest and punish those people?
How do you know they have the right people and it's not an excuse to crack down on Iranian dissenters who wish to be free of a bunch of nutty theocrats?
Goldfish actually have good memories btw.
How do you know they have the right people and it's not an excuse to crack down on Iranian dissenters who wish to be free of a bunch of nutty theocrats?
Goldfish actually have good memories btw.
I dont know that. and neither do you.
I just think its absurd to criticize a country for cracking down on the population when they are in the midst of pervasive infiltration that causes mass death and threatens the foundation of its society.
I dont know that. and neither do you.
I just think its absurd to criticize a country for cracking down on the population when they are in the midst of pervasive infiltration that causes mass death and threatens the foundation of its society.
You seemed to take it as a given they were Israel spies and also claimed they were tried in a court of law, as if the Iranian courts are reputable and fair. I'm only going by what you said. Usual apologia/stanning for scummy regimes by you.
yes they were convicted of spying.
Were the proceedings conducted in public? Were the alleged spies permitted representation and defence? Do we know that torture and coercion were not used to extract the supposed confessions? And do we have any way of even knowing that the IRGC weren't just rounding up and murdering people they don't like?
