RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.
IMO a healthy workforce creates a higher gdp then a unhealthy workforce.
I’m suspecting 1$ dollars spend in healthcare from
The government get some monetary multiplier benefits in gdp to have a healthy workforce .
Surely a health person working 5 days a week is more beneficial then a sick worker barely able to work 3-4 days a week ?
Than why does the government ignore one of the biggest health crisis Obesity ?
You're probably right.
Moving forward I'll endeavor to avoid engaging [strike]idiots[/strike] folks like Land 'O Lakes.
Sure, blame me. I must be the one who has a voodoo doll who pricks you with pins to post racist shiit and then claim it's just a joke.
Must suck that you can't gaslight anyone here, eh, brah?
U can’t fix people if they don’t want to be fix themselves.
Obesity isn’t a virus or an accident ….
I knew guy who got the the surgery about tighten in is stomach because he was too big .
He lost high amount of weight .
Guess what , he start eat bad **** again and grew big again .
Not has big but u get point …
In the US the government can't force people to do something even if that thing would be critical to their health.
In the 1920's the US government tried to make alcohol illegal in order to save lives. And I would guess there was a religious group or groups that wanted people to be righteous.
The US government then made drugs illegal. Its still in the laws but it basically doesn't work. So if the US government tried to force people who were overweight to see a doctor and get treatment like in a rehab that wouldn't work. If the US government made it a voluntary program that was paid for by the government so that people could get free help if they wanted it then the entire Republican party would object because they don't want to be spending money in order to help the population. To them its up to the population to help themselves.
And as far as obesity goes people can help themselves. Like AA there is Foodaholics Anonymous.
Another thing to consider is what % of people actually recover from treatment when they are addicted to something. With Alcohol rehabs I would guess it is around 20% to 25% chance that a person will be sober for the next 5 years after completing their stay. I worked as a volunteer in a Rehab in NYC for 2 years back in the 1980's and that was basically what was happening then and people who worked in the Rehab told me it was around 20% success rate. And that success rate was for people who wanted to be there. The success rate for people who were forced to be there was close to 0%.
The other thing to understand is why people are obese. For some women it is because they have been raped and they don't want men to rape them again so they think that not looking attractive will be an edge in that department. For other people it is like many addictions and is about not being able to deal with pain. The medical issues resulting from obesity are often not even important to obese people.
I feel like they should come up with a better name for Foodaholics Anonymous--that FA abbreviation is just too easy lol
I feel like they should come up with a better name for Foodaholics Anonymous--that FA abbreviation is just too easy lol
OK in a moment of complete dementia I forgot its called Overeaters Anonymous (at least here in the US). Part of the reason I got it wrong is that I am not part of that program.
I do like 12 step programs and I have a feeling that like AA, NA, GA, SA, etc. it helps people realize why they are doing what they are doing and helps them find ways to get healthier.
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In the US the government can't force people to do something even if that thing would be critical to their health.In the 1920's the US government tried to make alcohol illegal in order to save lives. And I would guess there was a religious group or groups that wanted people to be righteous.The US government then made drugs illegal. Its still in the laws but it basically doesn'
What about the Covid Vaccine that was forced. The government even refuses to talk about obesity
I like how he's not even subtle about it anymore and just leads with "what about".
social contagion exists. Normalizing obesity reduces the willpower people are willing to spend to avoid being obese. It also reduces the social costs of obesity, when many people are obese you aren't singled out as an immoral freak. It also creates a market that caters to obese people, further reducing the cost of obesity and so the amount of efforts people would go through to avoid it.
If you couldn't find shoes and clothes, and you were bullied nonstop for obesity, and made a pariah socially everywhere, FEWER PEOPLE WOULD BE OBESE.
So yes, by all intent and purposes obesity is actually contagious
They aren’t ignoring it. It’s one of the major focuses of public health and government spending on obesity prevention has skyrocketed by 10000%+ if you include stuff like Medicaid and Medicare payments for ozempic. Don’t know why you talk about stuff you dont know anything about so frequently.
What about the Covid Vaccine that was forced. The government even refuses to talk about obesity
People had a choice with the Covid vaccine. They could take it or they could lose their job (in the medical industry, the military, etc.). In the case of attending schools, students (and teachers and workers) could either take the Covid vaccine or not be allowed to attend classes in person.
When you allow people to hurt other people because they do what they want, then the government can step in.
This is specifically why people are no longer allowed to smoke inside public buildings or in elevators or airplanes anywhere.
Here is an article that shows 3 governme...
"Three speakers addressed obesity solutions within the federal government. Kevin Concannon, under secretary for food, nutrition, and consumer services at the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), described the programs of that agency. Howard Koh, assistant secretary for health at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), detailed that agency's programs and policies related to physical activity. Finally, Jeff Levi, executive director of the Trust for America's Health, proposed principles and ideas for the roundtable to consider going forward."
But this was under Obama in 2014 I believe. I mean Trump probably does talk about obesity like when he is mad about a woman who criticizes him.
The thing to consider is that the current Secretary of US Dept of Health is RFK Jr.
They aren’t ignoring it. It’s one of the major focuses of public health and government spending on obesity prevention has skyrocketed by 10000%+ if you include stuff like Medicaid and Medicare payments for ozempic. Don’t know why you talk about stuff you dont know anything about so frequently.
If you think Ozempic is the solution to obesity your out to lunch and I do not know what I am talking about OK .
People had a choice with the Covid vaccine. They could take it or they could lose their job (in the medical industry, the military, etc.). In the case of attending schools, students (and teachers and workers) could either take the Covid vaccine or not be allowed to attend classes in person.When you allow people to hurt other people because they do what they want, then the gov
Yeah that crazy guy that is concerned with all the chemicals in our food . He may be on the crazy end on some things but he's not there on our food
Yeah that crazy guy that is concerned with all the chemicals in our food . He may be on the crazy end on some things but he's not there on our food
People have been trying to wake people up about our food for decades. Conservatives used to call organic food a commie plot back in the day lol Then when they finally warm up to stuff years behind(and fighting against it) they try to act like they invented it. Common theme that plays out over and over.
social contagion exists. Normalizing obesity reduces the willpower people are willing to spend to avoid being obese. It also reduces the social costs of obesity, when many people are obese you aren't singled out as an immoral freak. It also creates a market that caters to obese people, further reducing the cost of obesity and so the amount of efforts people would go through to
So if I spend time with obese people , I got no choice, I will get fat right ?
That is what contagion means, it’s not a choice....
Maybe u conflict the term being easily influenced with the term contagious ..
I think Ozempic has a place for morbidly obese but your on it for life . Will see the long term effects of the drug
Ah, so you're saying Ozempic is one solution to obesity, yet you cackled when eda mentioned it. Cool, brah.
I'd imagine that a 600-pounder probably has to stay on it for life, but the long-term side effects are negligible compared to the long-term side effects of being 600 pounds.
In the vast cases, I would think that the idea is to go on it to suppress appetite and learn how to eat properly and exercise so that you can remove it once you've solidified healthy habits.
