RFK - Make America Healthy? again?

it would be great if it was a cure, but if it's something you have to take for your whole life well, it isn't so great for taxpayers, it can accelerare the already disastrous trend of public finances.

we also still need to wait for long term side effects

if you spend time with people with COVID you don't get COVID automatically either

no one needs to "learn to exercise" given simply walking around 30 min/day in most cases would be enough.

no reason to think you learn to eat better with less appetite either.

Depends which strain ….
Some are almost a sure thing , and more time u spend with them , the highest chance they do.

But you , to continue implying that Covid, flu or any other virus like that are similar to obesity on contagion probabilities , and to even suggest obesity can be contagious by some medical reason confirm how any opinion you have on health and medical issues should not even be heard of …..

No wonder your opinion on mask, Covid, crisis, vaccine etc are at the RFK level…

Lol again at long-term side effects. Do you really think the side effects are worse than long-term being 600 pounds?

I doubt the goal for most people going on Ozempic is to stay on it for life.

Are you reetarded? By "learn to exercise," I mean learn to have exercise be part of your daily routine. Based on your posting habits, I'm guessing you could learn it yourself.

If someone goes from eating 5000 calories a day to 2000 calories a day, they are eating better. Care to hazard a guess why?

We get it, you didn't go to college..... but maybe take a step back from your cultural conservative non thinking background for a second? "The solution" to a public health problem like obesity is just a dumb way to think about it. As it would be for addiction, cancer, unsatisfying careers etc. What is true is the first ever recorded decrease in % of US adults that are obese happened soon after ozempic could be prescribed to treat it. It's so far the only thing we know of that has reduced obesity rates in the US. To dismiss it is outright is the height of "dumb conservative I would expect an average 10 year old to be able to think about this deeper" culture .

for taxpayers they can be a lot worse yes. obesity kills you fairly fast which is fine for taxpayers.

every single mother****er knows he should exercise (which again, means just walking around every day, that's already enough).

they don't do it because they are lazy, simple as that.

eating 2000 calories because of appetite suppressants is better than eating 5000 for your personal health yes, but it's just eating less, not better.

eating better would mean finding satisfaction in less calories, eating in balanced way and so on. people on ozempic eat the same disgusting crap they ate before, just less. they don't learn to cook real food by taking ozempic.

so when they stop they are back where they were

Eating 3000 fewer calories is eating better. How can you say a person weighing 170 is not better than weighing 300?

If a person is eating 2000 calories of garbage, it's not healthy nor optimal, but it's a hell of a lot healthier than 5000 calories of the same things.

BTW, you eat a shiit diet - you've posted pics of it, yet you think it's healthy, lmao.

I did look to see what RFK Jr has been saying.

It didn't look like he was talking about obesity. Also, he didn't object to Trump cutting Medicaid so that like 10 to 15 million people won't have health care anymore.

Also while RFK Jr has talked about chemicals in food I have no idea if he actually knows anything about anything. He has taken to getting Fluoride out of water. which is amazingly stupid as kids will have more cavities. I'm guessing there are conspiracy theories about fluoride.

You do realize Ozempic is a lifetime medication you will never be able to go off it ?

I’m all for the morbidly obese using it as your right it’s better to be a healthy weight

some people have hopes some effects stay after you quit but we don't have enough data to confidently assess that yet

No, I don't.

I've known people who were 250+ pounds for decades lose 100 pounds and kept it off for decades. Now your assertion is that people who eat less through a medication would never be able to get off the medication and retain eating less because of what reason exactly?

Of course most physics Nobel Prize winners and Fields Medalists sound like "leftist climate activists" also. Somehow the only people that "know things particularly well" all sound like you or Lozen when you talk to them. Quite strange indeed.

Google it there are already studies on people going off Ozempic only to gain the weight back .

It's only been on the market as a weight loss drug for a few years. There is only one study I can find that is routinely cited and it indicates the weight gain is no different than people who have lost weight via traditional means. That doesn't seem surprising when the core reason why someone is addicted to food isn't addressed - whether they do it old school or use Ozempic.

Shoutout Tylenol for causing autism or something

****ing brainworm

Johnson & Johnson's brown envelope must have got lost in the mail.

Lolllll, come on. How can anyone believe that autism didn’t exist before Tylenol?

When I was a kid my mom only gave me Tylenol because there was supposed to be some risk with giving Aspirin to kids.

the tylenol in pregnancy causing autism thing seems to come from a study of a huge cohort (N= 2.5M), except the study itself then controls for siblings and finds no correlation

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fu...

As long as trump/rfk are running the show I'm pretty sure I just don't believe it.

Evidently nobody even know autism was a thing til brainworms made it on the forefront of public knowledge

Glory be to brainworms

In a million years you will never be able to talk me out of this

I’ll concede the whole food dye thing since basically everyone was screaming this from the highest mountain tops and a broken clock with RFK and all that

But if one side has 10000 scientists and the other side has RFK, **** you

One of the reasons why people think that vaccines can cause Autism is that it is typically diagnosed by a doctor at a very early age. So it can happen soon after a child has been given a vaccine. The people who step forward and claim that it is vaccines that cause Autism are typically either parents of an autistic child or a relative. In the early 1990's (when mercury was still in children's vaccines) I had a throat operation (nodes on my vocal chords). My doctor (in NYC) was a young woman who had a young child that had been diagnosed with Autism. She told me that she believed it was caused by vaccines. In all likelihood she was not a right wing person. I looked into it and found that vaccines contained mercury. But that wouldn't be the reason for Autism...

Here is an article on it

"Some people have worried that thimerosal, an ethylmercury-containing preservative in some multi-dose preparations of influenza vaccine, could cause mercury poisoning either in children or affect the unborn children of pregnant women who receive this vaccine. But, for many reasons, thimerosal contained in vaccines is not harmful."

"In 1971 Iraq imported grain that had been fumigated with methylmercury. Farmers ate bread made from this grain. The result was one of the worst, single-source, mercury poisonings in history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the hospitalization of 6,500 Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the bread and delivered babies with epilepsy and mental ******ation. But they didn't deliver babies with an increased risk of autism."

"Women in the United States also occasionally received mercury when they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found that the mother's blood type was not compatible with their baby's blood type. To prevent this blood mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given RhoGAM®, a product that used to contain thimerosal as a preservative. However, consistent with the observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal in RhoGAM did not have a greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers never received RhoGAM. Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause autism in pregnancy, scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury doesn't."

The funny thing is that Autism can be caused by drugs (Thalidomide) taken by a mother during their pregnancy (early on) and also by at least one disease (Rubella) again if the mother gets Rubella early in pregnancy.

It is also known that autism is genetic. I think I had heard that it is caused genetically about 80% of the time but I could be wrong about that. Here are some more quotes from the article:

"First, like cystic fibrosis or sickle-cell disease, autism has a genetic basis. Researchers found that when one identical twin had autism, the chance that the other twin had autism was about 90 percent; for fraternal twins, the chance was less than 10 percent.

Second, although autism has a genetic basis, environmental factors can also cause the disease. For example, children whose mothers took thalidomide, a medication that used to be prescribed for nausea during pregnancy, had birth defects, including malformed ears and shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly greater incidence of autism than babies born to mothers who never took thalidomide. Thalidomide clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it early in pregnancy. If mothers took thalidomide in the second or third trimester of pregnancy, their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

The thalidomide experience showed that there was a vulnerable time early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly cause autism. Echoes of the thalidomide story are found in babies infected with rubella virus. Babies born to mothers who suffered rubella early in their pregnancies develop birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and heart. They also are at greater risk of developing autism, but like thalidomide, only if the baby is exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies don't develop autism if they are infected with the virus soon after birth. These findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause autism, and that there is a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the baby is at risk. However, during the second or third trimester of pregnancy, or after the child is born, the window for environmental factors causing autism has apparently closed."