War in CEE

War in CEE

Most of the info I came across suggests that an open conflict between Russia and NATO will break out soon (like now). I

25 September 2025 at 11:21 PM
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We're just coming off getting defeated by people who wipe their asses with their bare hands and you want to talk about destroying Russia?

Do you ever consider that Russia can eliminate us at any time they choose? They choose not to because doing so would result in their being eliminated in response. But if they ever felt like they were at serious risk of being destroyed as a country, they would absolutely destroy us.

Or is that all you think about? Do you hate your life and have resolved to do anything you can, with whatever microscopic effort you can muster, to killing off the human race?


by QtangPendek

I agree with all you said, except that I think that we shouldn’t conveniently omit the scenario when he doesn’t get what he wants and baits NATO into battle and there’s one reason you didn’t mention- yes, there’s no more conventional warfare left, but he has so, so many thermonuclear warheads that can be used to compensate for decimating HIV battal

Proof?

Okay, I agree he has +5k warheads but are they operational? You don't just stick those things in a bunker. Maybe explain to the defense analysts how Russia could maintain readiness with a nuclear arsenal that size since the costs of doing so would exceed their entire military budget. Maybe they only have several dozen or several hundred deployable. Bad but not MAD.

We've seen what Putin and his cronies did to Russia's military by way of just maintaining their front-line troops while letting all the reserves and rear supply rot, siphoning off the money. And those are things they could conceivably need some day. In other words, why would a crook like Putin maintain Russia's nuclear arsenals?


by Victor

I dunno, they still havent obliterated Hamas, Hezbollah, or AnsarAllah.

That's the idiotic neo-con definition of winning a war, ie, they'd still be fighting the Revolutionary War. Those tactics are more aligned with policing. Winning a war used to mean rendering your enemy unable or unwilling to wage war against you. War being the operative word. Like someone said, the objective is to win the war without having to fight battles. The US and the West with few possible exceptions are there. Basically the countries that might be able to wage war against us aren't willing to and those that are like in the ME aren't able to. So as far as I'm concerned we won.


by John21

Proof? Okay, I agree he has +5k warheads but are they operational? You don't just stick those things in a bunker. Maybe explain to the defense analysts how Russia could maintain readiness with a nuclear arsenal that size since the costs of doing so would exceed their entire military budget. Maybe they only have several dozen or several hundred deployable. Bad but not MAD. We'v

He inherited Soviet infrastructure developed during Cold War, even if half, or 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/5… are still operational, he only needs 1-2 of them to explode over some Ukrainian city to make NATO think twice before joining the party for real.


by QtangPendek

He inherited Soviet infrastructure developed during Cold War, even if half, or 1/3 or 1/4 or 1/5… are still operational, he only needs 1-2 of them to explode over some Ukrainian city to make NATO think twice before joining the party for real.

Why would the CEO of Exxon do that?
Or why won't the West shove first? The Suwałki Gap? That would be my bet.



How Russia's mounting economic woes could force Putin's hand

The Russian economy is in trouble. Growth has stalled, energy revenues have plunged, and the budget deficit is growing. If the EU and US step up sanctions, things could get more serious still.


Guys remember that anything you think you might know about Russia wouldn’t withstand the reality. Rublovka guys are fcuked up in their heads




I told you guys







The drones over Danish, Norwegian etc military airports is the last glimpse before literally bombing them




by QtangPendek

The drones over Danish, Norwegian etc military airports is the last glimpse before literally bombing them

Triggering Art.5 is a headache the Russians can do without.


by 57 On Red

Triggering Art.5 is a headache the Russians can do without.

What if they can’t anymore? Look, when you’re poor you buy cheaper food or so, try to work somewhere to make money for rent etc. what if you’re a crackhead and your dr u g hunger became so intense and you don’t have any more money, experiencing deepening pain, but you have a one single thing left, a knife in your pocket?


by 57 On Red

Triggering Art.5 is a headache the Russians can do without.

Idk. NATO won't just go into full attack mode. But they'll definitely start moving things around, which Putin will turn around to his people as the West is coming. From what I've read, their hospitals are under wartime strain and I really can't see any path to victory. Coupled with all the other strains on their economy, he has to do something.


by John21

Idk. NATO won't just go into full attack mode. But they'll definitely start moving things around, which Putin will turn around to his people as the West is coming. From what I've read, their hospitals are under wartime strain and I really can't see any path to victory. Coupled with all the other strains on their economy, he has to do something.

Yes! That’s what I’m saying. And he’ll do it now. Like right now


Since Europe paid off trump like week ago and Taco started saying “Russia bad”, putin is on the verge of losing his folding equity and he’ll shove now, before the blinds hit him





Russia just lost Moldova. This very night I’m afraid






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If you’re anti-Russia, maybe don’t amplify their propaganda so much.


by John21

If you’re anti-Russia, maybe don’t amplify their propaganda so much.

It’s the only glimpse in their plans that we, the peasants have. You just have to read in reverse. What should I post, Europe’s victory scenarios? Plans to rebuild Ukraine? They can be all summed up in “Russia losing”, which is a wishful thinking at best


by QtangPendek

It’s the only glimpse in their plans that we, the peasants have. You just have to read in reverse. What should I post, Europe’s victory scenarios? Plans to rebuild Ukraine? They can be all summed up in “Russia losing”, which is a wishful thinking at best

Idk, maybe something other than the exact stuff a Russian disinfo bot would post… including the screenshots that don’t get flagged. That Russia is strong and NATO is weak and deluded is exactly the line Moscow wants out there. The reality is Russia wouldn’t even exist as much of a country anymore if it weren’t for nukes and they’re in no position right now in a conventional sense to take on NATO in anything other than a suicide mission.


by John21

Idk, maybe something other than the exact stuff a Russian disinfo bot would post… including the screenshots that don’t get flagged. That Russia is strong and NATO is weak and deluded is exactly the line Moscow wants out there. The reality is Russia wouldn’t even exist as much of a country anymore if it weren’t for nukes and they’re in no position right now in a conventional sen

If it weren’t the nukes - yes. But they have them. So it’s contradictory. I’m not a Russian propagandist, I’m polish, residing in Warsaw. I’m just worried. Wouldn’t you be?


by QtangPendek

If it weren’t the nukes - yes. But they have them. So it’s contradictory. I’m not a Russian propagandist, I’m polish, residing in Warsaw. I’m just worried. Wouldn’t you be?

Yeah, I know. I shouldn't have implied that.

What would your worry rate be if Poland had nukes that could reach Moscow?

I'd probably feel the same way Mexicans would feel if the US took a hostile military stance against them. But that was already baked in living next door to a hostile nuclear superpower for the Poles. So while Russia could.... that doesn't mean they will.

Aside from the military imbalance with NATO, China will implode without access to Western markets. And Russia is vitally dependent on China just to keep its economy afloat, let alone all the extra help it would need from Beijing to take on NATO.

And I agree with you that Putin is feeling cornered and that's a reason why he might act, irrespective of the chances of a favorable outcome. But I think it's way, way more likely that he's acting like he's going to act, ie, pressure at home, shrinking options abroad, and the need to project strength push him to keep up the bluff. And again, Russia going to war with NATO would be very not good for business.

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