Israel/Palestine thread

I’ve expressed multiple times that I wish there was no conflict and the Palestinians would get on with their lives and try to build a functioning society. You’re the resistance by any means guy.

Well there’s a lot of people on the super far left that celebrated Luigi committing a murder in broad daylight. It seems like a lot of people that claim to not wish death on others have their exceptions.

That’s why it’s so hard for genocides to stop in real time. Humans always find endless reasons to kill each other. In fact it’s not hard to imagine how both sides can feel justified in this endless conflict.

Lol you’re a clown who has 0 understanding of the conflict

The entire free Palestine movement is predicated on wishing death to Jews. Only the dumb ones don’t realize what “From the river to the sea” entails. PokerEthics is for sure one of the dumb ones.

Well no bc when you steal someone’s land they actually do now have the right to defend themselves.

Give it up bro.. Israel are the real terrorists the mask is off.

Your insults just prove you’ve lost the argument.

You have honorable supporters of Israel. Now I can say this, but look at this thread how many if any of the pro war in Gaza people will say there are honorable supporters of Palestine. Has anyone seen anything like that. Has anyone seen any of the pro war in Gaza people say something nice about Islam As the pro Palestine side has said on numerous occasions positive things about Judaism.

Also For the fanatical supporters of the war in Gaza It’s gotten beyond fishing for antisemitism…. It’s not just their annoying cringe completely non-logical attitude. Like again if somebody criticized the government of Saudi Arabia, I don’t think there’s a single person here on the pro Palestine side who would start to in the most cringe whiny bitchy manner complain about Islamophobia.

But this is something that Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith, other Jewish scholars have pointed out. It’s almost like the fanatical war in Gaza people want there to be antisemitism to justify the heinous atrocities in Gaza.

It is obvious every day. …. somebody will say you know what I’m here to criticize the government of Israel and they will be attacked by a series of people on X or YouTube decrying them as anti-Semitic. “Oh you hate Joos” and again lol what is this “Joos” thing…I mean come on hasbara do better.

Or we’ve even seen it in this very thread somebody will say yeah you know what I wanna point out Norman Finkelstein and other Jewish scholars criticizing the war in Gaza. Or I want to showcase you this Palestinian activist showcasing the heinous treatment of Christians and Muslims in Israel. In response again in this very thread Some of the pro war in Gaza people will randomly say things like “yeah and tell us about Jewish space lasers” with no rebuttal to the actual context of the arguments being presented.

But the one that takes the cake is the propaganda line of “well people just want to see the Jews removed….or pro Palestinians won’t be happy until every Jew is removed. Or Israelis are fighting for their existence”. Right a country with 90 nuclear warheads is facing extermination. From people in Gaza with a AK-47’s at best going up against the IDF with sophisticated drone technology, tanks, military jets. It’s a joke. It is beyond laughable.

“Hamas” again funded by Israeli politicians, allowed to exist by Israel as a bulwark against secular PLO… allowed and encouraged by Israel to receive funding and set up offices in Qatar….has been defeated …. Again, they were never an actual threat to Israel. You would need to have a sophisticated Air Force, real ground operations, a navy , special forces, all sorts of advanced weaponry for that which they never had. But for all intents and purposes they are destroyed yet the cease fire is constantly breached by the IDF. That and so many other events are why genocide scholars including Israeli scholars are saying there’s a genocide in Gaza.

By the way has anyone here seen any videos put up by the IDF of them helping to build schools in Gaza or pass out food to Palestinian children? You know how like back in the American invasion of Iraq you actually had a lot of videos of American soldiers giving food to Iraqi kids, building schools in Iraq because the mission was to actually help the people of Iraq. And there’s plenty of criticism for that war. But this is a blatantly obvious difference between how America acted in Iraq compared to Israel in Gaza..

Are there good people in Israel that want change for the better ??? absolutely unfortunately they’re not in the military or the political atmosphere right now. Hopefully that can change.

they often give food or water to Palestinians and then shoot them afterwards.

Give what up lol? It’s funny you still think I’m here to engage you in serious debate with the goal of winning an internet argument with someone who clearly has no idea what they are talking about.

Hey trolls. You're on the wrong side of history.

"The number of dues-paying members in IfNotNow, an American Jewish group that opposes Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, has grown more than 500 percent since Oct. 7, 2023, reaching over 6,000 people. Rabbis for Ceasefire, which formed after Oct. 7, now has some 430 rabbis. Jewish Voice for Peace said it increased its annual budget from $5 million to $9 million and its chapters from 45 to more than 100 in the past two years." NYT

Well if there are ones in there that don’t know what “from the river to the sea” means (a revanchist vision of a single state controlled by Palestinian Arabs) then it can’t all be predicated on wishing death on Jews.

There’s a certain amount of tolerance for stupidity you have to have in a liberal society, and there’s a certain amount of hatred you have to tolerate in peace talks.

Try to not speak in slogans for a day and see if it helps your communication, because from my perspective I have no idea what you even mean by this post.

They do, but for strange reasons which would probably not be your reasons, or mine.

What is a Torah Jew and why should any of us care?

If you guys stopped to think about the things you repost, it would save you from looking like a fool.

Does history really have a right and a wrong side?

The way things are shaking up, Israel is going to continue existing and being a leading first world nation while the Palestinians will continue to live in poverty without a state. Their children have no future beyond joining a terrorist group in an attempt to kill Jews.

Doesn’t sound like the right side of history to me but what do I know.

Here, ignoramus: Neturei Karta. A rival anti-Zionist group is the Hassidic Satmar.

The Palestinians? Do you mean the Gazans?

I really feel like you should have a bit of self-reflection on how you lump all Palestinians in together. You’re the one that pointed out many times that the people in Gaza oftentimes resist Hamas to the point of dying to not be under their control.

There is a quote that I think is appropriate.

"Chaos can't survive without your participation".

To think that one side is better than the other is silly in this fight. One side is simply stronger and they now get to write the history.

Lots of posts, some might say too many to read.

If I were to read this thread start to finish, what predictions were correctly made and by whom?

And can someone inform me what’s going on with the anti-Semitic sentiment that seems to be spreading across america?

Is it also spreading across Europe ?

Might have something to do with Israel trying successfully to incinerate the Palestinians and the World going no problem. A million women, children and fathers dead is totally justifiable.

Lets build some five star resorts on the Gaza Strip.

Yeah! Everyone wins!!!

A million?

Everyone predicting that ceasefires would be broken by Israel and that Gaza would be turned to rubble was correct.

Almost everyone disagreeing with them has long since left the thread.

I’m an ignoramus for not knowing about a fringe group of Jews? Who you only know about because they are used as a prop for antisemitic purposes.

Still unclear what you meant by Torah Jews.

Most people who aren’t singularly obsessed with the destruction of Israel will have no idea who these people are or what you mean by “Torah Jews” but you wouldn’t know that unless you actually interacted with people about this subject in real life.

Not really. In this context, Palestinians is probably closest to the truth. You might be confusing me for someone else, because I’ve never contended that Gazans were fighting back against Hamas. Many Gazans support Hamas, with some of the hostages being held by “citizens” like teachers.

still unclear how you still havent learned to use google.