Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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I don't usually post here because I just don't know enough about it all, but is this right? They had a cease fire, then Israel tossed a bunch of air strikes, killing a bunch of people, and now the Israeli army says "ok, the ceasefire is on again." Really?
Maybe a good rule of thumb is there is about as much correlation between what Israel says it will do and what Israel does as there is between what Trump says and what Trump does.
Have you ever seen the movie Mars Attacks? Israelis are like the little green aliens who keep saying they come in peace while they are blasting Earthlings to hell. I'm pretty sure if that movie came out now it would called anti Semitic by ZBS and the mainstream media.
“I’m here to criticize the government of Israel.”
“You hate Jews!”
Randy Fine “I can understand Americans being afraid of Islam….oh and uhh your a Nazi for criticizing Israel”
Ugh ��
Israel a country with 90 nuclear warheads that is now surrounded by friendly or neutral countries. Like Jordan intercepting a missile from Iran headed toward Israel. So what in the world are the pro war in Gaza people doing with their rhetoric? What is the point what is the endgame. It makes no sense. Their tactics are so utterly horrible that you would think it’s like a comedy show.
This one takes the cake
“ why is Israel this tiny little country so picked on. Why aren’t people talking about other problems in the world?”
Critics of the government of Israel, go way out of their way to praise Judaism, to specifically criticize the politicians. And you have a lot of Israeli people calling out the genocide in Gaza. Meanwhile, you have the annoying whiners who scream Nazi all the time while simultaneously degrading Islam . I mean it is hilarious.
And of course the war in Gaza which sources from all directions show is unparalleled in terms of civilian casualties in modern war….well of course there is no penalty. There is no sanctions on the government of Israel or the people of Israel. Unlike the Russians who even their citizens who have nothing to do with the war are paying dearly for it.
“Oh waah 😩 Israel is so unfairly criticized”
Riiight that’s why the western media completely despises the Russian politicians, Syria under Assad yet gives a platform to Israeli politicians and military every day.
the pro war in Gaza people repeat their insane annoying rhetoric every day it’s always the same thing. They never respond to any criticism they don’t even answer to any questions about their hypocrisy about hating Islam, whining about antisemitism where it doesn’t exist. Incredible.
I think the increased interest globally can be attributed to three things
1. Antisemitism
2. Islamophobia
3. Other International Tensions in the region
I think that in Dunyains case his heightened interest in the conflict can clearly be linked to number 2.
I think there’s also a philanthropic motivation at least for me…
I also think I have western guilt for benefiting off of this system of colonialism and exploitation of natural resources.
This one takes the cake“ why is Israel this tiny little country so picked on. Why aren’t people talking about other problems in the world?”Critics of the government of Israel, go way out of their way to praise Judaism, to specifically criticize the politicians. And you have a lot of Israeli people calling out the genocide in Gaza. Meanwhile, you have the annoying whiners who s
This is well put.
What do people think about the book of revelations part in all of this?
Long but fascinating interview with Rabbi and Dartmouth historian Shaul Magid about the many varieties of Jewish anti-zionism that have existed over the decades. The learnedness of Magid and the interviewer blew me away.
But he then went a bit strange.
Unfortunately the moderators of this forum decided that posting hateful lies about Jews* is ok in this forum. So Blue switched to trolling.
I don't think that was the reason. The reason was that a fairly random comment by Trolly offended his racial sensibilities and sent him clean off his head, like an antebellum plantation owner having his 'rights' questioned.
No part at all, it's in the Christian canon and largely irrelevant, though I can recommend DH Lawrence's posthumously published book Apocalypse, believed to be his last completed work, as an interesting commentary on that bit of lunacy.
But he then went a bit strange.
I don't think that was the reason. The reason was that a fairly random comment by Trolly offended his racial sensibilities and sent him clean off his head, like an antebellum plantation owner having his 'rights' questioned.
It’s clear Blue starting trolling to counter the ridiculousness of posters like Victor, Bill and Jalfrezi, etc. He came to the same conclusion as any sane person would, that there’s no meaningful discussion to be had here.
Of course that’s not the reason. Blue was banned because he could not or would not stop doing this despite numerous shorter temps:
I was suspended because I wished you death once before, so this time I will only wish you cancer.
I really hope you get cancer already
Ofc I do. Everyone who is a blatant antisemitic worm, can only have one future if it was up to me
It’s clear Blue starting trolling to counter the ridiculousness of posters like Victor, Bill and Jalfrezi, etc. He came to the same conclusion as any sane person would, that there’s no meaningful discussion to be had here.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/198393...
I guess we can file this one next to the beheaded babies and fake rape hoax.
think there’s potential for JD Vance to listen to young conservatives. With regards to the completely insane BLM type cancel culture that we see from the neoconservatives and Israel firsters. It has nothing to do with even Israel in general. It’s about the current politicians in Israel and it’s about AIPAC. Foreign influence on America. The obvious fact that most Democrats and Republicans are connected to AIPAC and Foreign Israeli lobbyists.
Set aside the obvious annoying false smears of racism by MIGAS. Ie “Your a Nazi if you criticize Netanyahu”
Let’s hope that Republicans listen here. Doesn’t seem like Democrats are. Let’s hope that JD Vance listens to young conservatives. Stop giving money to Israel no matter what. Call out the genocide in Gaza.
Er... I don't think they're objecting on humanitarian grounds. And they pretty certainly don't object to the destruction of Gaza or the landgrabs on the West Bank. Those, surely, are the far-right pseudo-Orthodox Haredi settlers who claim the protection of the Israeli state and the IDF, while pretending to refuse to recognise that state (because it's notionally secular), and who also claim privileged religious exemption from the IDF call-up, even though Israel's Supreme Court struck down their exemption last year. That's all they're on about. They're objecting to the end of their free ride and the concomitant loss of certain state financial benefits they're accustomed to rely on.
To be fair, from a completely utilitarian perspective, it probably would be best for humanity and especially the Israelis if people like Victor ceased to exist.
didnt think my posts on a message board with a few dozen active posters decrying the mass murder of children were so powerful. but thanks bro. I do what I can.
Im not flattering myself. you and Blue are. isnt there some 13 year old in Palestine you would prefer to wish death on than me?
To be fair, from a completely utilitarian perspective, it probably would be best for humanity and especially the Israelis if people like Victor ceased to exist.
Surely extremely low amplification over such a large signal-to-noise ratio would mean that the intrinsic value of his life is worth more than the vanishingly small benefit to the overall discourse, even if you believed it would be a net benefit with respect to some group of people.
Actually the point isn’t really to attack victor but his ideas. Sometimes the lines get blurred because victor gets pretty personal, but hopefully it’s just to hold him to his own standard rather than to actually want him to die.
The Venn diagram of people who wish death on people and people who are fine with genocide is probably close to a circle.
