Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Gifting doesn’t even need to cost money. I’m in a close group of girlfriends and we gift often between us, but it’s usually in a thoughtful way, like someone will bring flowers from their garden or another will bake fresh bread and bring a boule for everyone. We exchange vases and homemade desserts and cross-stitches, and occasionally something store bought that reminded someone of another. It’s a culture of friendship that we fostered intentionally because we love each other. It’s not really about the money, most of us are musicians and/or academics so we don’t have much money anyway, but it’s always the thought behind it.
God I’m so happy some days to be a woman…
That's so sad.
I think it's refreshing to hear about less commercial Christmases.
It’s a beautiful thing to see you progressives embrace some tradition.
Giving gifts doesn’t annoy me. What does, is essentially being forced to use part of my PTO every single year for holidays and associated travel. That should be the gift, but no family will ever see it that way.
Some of my friends are anticapitalist and live their lives according to those values, so they don’t buy things usually and don’t want you to buy things for them. This is why making something yourself for a friend, whether food or art or flowers from the garden is generally considered more thoughtful within my friend group.
But again, I’m not really talking about Christmas. We do random gifting year round.
At base, gift giving is either (1) a sacrificial offering or (2) a mercy / grace offering.
Ideally, option #2 wouldn’t take place within a set, obligatory context because then it starts to blur with #1.
It’s perfectly healthy for people to become turned off to option #1.
My view is that Christmas gift giving is for children and the needy who cannot gift anything back.
You’re a really weird dude.
Some of my friends are anticapitalist and live their lives according to those values, so they don’t buy things usually and don’t want you to buy things for them. This is why making something yourself for a friend, whether food or art or flowers from the garden is generally considered more thoughtful within my friend group.But again, I’m not really talking about Christmas. We do
Your friends sound like fun...
Giving gifts doesn’t annoy me. What does, is essentially being forced to use part of my PTO every single year for holidays and associated travel. That should be the gift, but no family will ever see it that way.
you are confused
they are under the assumption you enjoy visiting them and don't view time spent traveling to get there as hardship
ie when is the last time you ever consoled your sex partner for the physical exertion they had to do in bed until orgasm was reached? same logic
Yes, that's a really screwed up and horrible way of looking at things. Those ungrateful family members hoping to exchange gifts with me at Christmas.
No wonder the US is so fukked up.
USA is amazing.
you are confused
they are under the assumption you enjoy visiting them and don't view time spent traveling to get there as hardship
ie when is the last time you ever consoled your sex partner for the physical exertion they had to do in bed until orgasm was reached? same logic
Why can’t they visit me? They’re the ones with the free time.
Yes, that's a really screwed up and horrible way of looking at things. Those ungrateful family members hoping to exchange gifts with me at Christmas.
No wonder the US is so fukked up.
I get 10 days of vacation days per year because I work in a 24/7 field and the only way to guarantee wage increases is to job hop every few years. I’ve been doing this for almost two decades, see above.
#1, baby. It’s a real grind and I’m not loving it.
Why can’t they visit me? They’re the ones with the free time.
I get 10 days of vacation days per year because I work in a 24/7 field and the only way to guarantee wage increases is to job hop every few years. I’ve been doing this for almost two decades, see above.
#1, baby. It’s a real grind and I’m not loving it.
What do they say when you say you'll host and put them up?
They are. I sometimes pity men that most seem to lack truly intimate friendships. I’ve never heard close guy friends say that they love each other. Maybe that’s why so many men are apparently lonely. Seems like a pretty sad way to live.
Its a really good point actually . I think you see it more in sports on teams than just friends . I am not sure if its why men are lonely. I think men are more loyal to friends than women are though
I would add most men have trouble admitting another guy is good looking
They are. I sometimes pity men that most seem to lack truly intimate friendships. I’ve never heard close guy friends say that they love each other. Maybe that’s why so many men are apparently lonely. Seems like a pretty sad way to live.
Yes men are indeed scum and etc
Ya think??
