President Donald Trump

For all the reasons others have mentioned, this strategy would be a gift to Republicans imo. GOP infighting, on the other hand, almost certainly is helpful to Democrats.

They definitely won't run on impeachment.

I don't see how "Impeach Trump" does anything other than embolden whatever is left of MAGA. Unless the Dems are confident they're gonna end up with at least 60 senators (which is ridiculous), it makes no sense in my opinion.

Just for the record it takes 67 Senators to make a House impeachment pass in the Senate. Not that there won't possibly be 7 Republican Senators who would vote for it. But basically we have 5 Republican Senators who are Doctors that voted for RFK Jr. And Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins allowed Obamacare to get trashed when in Trump's first term they didn't.

It is unlikely anyway that Democrats will get 51 Senators in 2026. Assuming they win the close Senate races currently held by Republicans (Maine, North Carolina) and don't lose Democratic held seats in potentially close races (Michigan, Georgia) and somehow win back Ohio they would still need one more to take control. And that would be in miracle territory like Iowa, Nebraska, or Texas.

But if the Democrats take the House (and it is likely that they will) then it is almost certain that Trump will be voted for impeachment there. His administration has done so many things in his first year that are basically against the law (like the way immigrants are being deported without due process or the bombing of Venezuelan ships without any proof that they had illegal drugs or the defunding of things passed by congress, etc.)

If the Dems think going 0 for 3 on impeachments will aide their cause, I guess it's worth a shot.

Another idea is to campaign on and actually pass enormously popular policies like Paid Family Leave. Which, of course, will never happen because their donors don't want it.

full disclosure: I watch The Young Turks a lot.

Ok so sounds like you poor bastards have to put up with this insanity for the full term. Trump's mind will have fully gone long before then, but I assume they'll keep him tucked away while Miller etc call the shots.

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Bit of, little angry man, petty retaliation...

Going forward, in cases where different parties control the presidency and the House, I expect impeachment to be far closer to the rule than exception.

Impeachment when there is no chance of getting the necessary 67 votes is good theatre, but not much else. That said, I suppose impeachment proceedings are +EV since the festivities at least slow down passing more bad laws.

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I guess I am just amazed that anyone would actually try to push for the Democrats to impeach Trump a third time when real world results show it does not mean anything. Trump lost the popular vote by two million votes in 2016, then was impeached twice. In 2024, after being impeached twice, he won the popular vote by over two million votes. Votes in both the House and Senate will always go overwhelmingly along party lines.

I doubt anyone will push congress to do an impeachment. Its just the publicity around bringing up things that Trump is doing illegally. That is what congress does. The Republicans in congress organized investigations like 10 times against Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State.

What Trump is all about is being the center of attention and making money. And probably trying to create a Putin like world where autocrats run the country.

Impeaching Trump would bring Trump to the center of attention in a very negative way and he will do other things (like put his name on National buildings, rebuild the White House, have fights with women, etc) to change the subject.

But in the end, his popularity may continue to nose dive when things he is doing illegally become the center of attention. And for 2028 it may bring all kinds of difficult situations for Republican candidates. If Republicans vote against Trump they will face primary opponents (that will have very little chance of winning in swing districts/states). If they don't they may lose elections in districts that have been adversely affected by Trump's policies. Especially surrounding immigration. Trump's popularity with Hispanics has dropped something like over 30% in the past year.

His popularity rises or falls based on the economy, cost of living and people's personal situations. That is what determines how people vote. People didn't care about all the other stuff in 2024 because they were getting crushed by inflation and blamed the Dems. Voters will overlook almost anything if their personal situation is going well. That is why people ignored the "My opponent is Hitler" rhetoric leading up to the 2024 election.

What you are saying is true.

The thing is in my lifetime Democrats only get elected President if something goes wrong in the Republican's Presidency. OK not including JFK (but that was a case of who he was running against. Nixon was sweating during the first on air debate and was incredibly unpopular because of that). Jimmy Carter got elected because Nixon resigned (otherwise Nixon would have been impeached for doing illegal things). Clinton got elected because there was a third party candidate and things had started to go south for Bush. Obama got elected because of financial disaster. Biden got elected because of Covid and financial disaster but also a little bit because of how unpopular Trump had become as he was running against him.

But if Trump gets held liable for doing illegal things, like he did in his first term, that may contribute to Republicans not getting elected in 2028. Especially for president where it looks like Vance is the leading candidate. It would be incredibly difficult for Vance to appeal to Independents without saying that what Trump did was wrong. And if he says that out loud he will lose the Trump MAGA base.

Let’s say you’re a prosecutor in the deep south during the height of Jim Crow. There’s a white person that lynches a black man and it’s pretty clear he murdered him. However, you know and everyone knows that due to jury nullification, the guy is going to get off on a not guilty verdict, and not even spend any time in jail or pay bail because the judge will release him on RoR.

Supposing you’re in this situation, why exactly would you go forward? Even if you get 11 jury members, you won’t get the 12th, and that’s if it wouldn’t fail outright by not getting out of a grand jury or being found not guilty unanimously.

I mean the law does say you’re supposed to prosecute, but you also have discretion and you know what the outcome will be regardless.

Maga will be dead by 2028 and JD Vance may represent some stability and lack of craziness compared to Trump . Yes the MAGA voters will still be around but not a chance they vote for a Kamala or Gavin so they either stay home or Vote JD

Right on, Chad

Trump’s entire year 1 has been centered around:

1. Enriching himself and his family
2. Vanity projects that serve absolutely nobody but himself (the **** is this arch now?)
3. Tormenting minorities to the glee and giddiness of people like Blahblah
4. Political retribution
5. Declaring himself an isolationist while giving massive bailouts to countries whose leaders are his buddy at the expense of Americans
6. Getting a massive tax cut for the wealthy through by obliterating social welfare programs, the ACA, and programs and departments designed to protect the poor and underserved (see: a large swath of his base)
7. Idiotic trade wars to seem like super duper tough guy

On the to do list:

1. Solving inflation on day 1
2. Solving ukraine on day 1
3. Solving Gaza on day 1
4. Solving Obamacare on day 1 9 years ago

Anything I miss?

I would agree with you other than # 3 . He has deported over 400,000 folks with criminal records . Its the one good thing he has done as well as ban men in women's sports . Though im not sure why he didn't ban women in men's sports

Just a reminder. Trump also has a criminal record.

Hey ****** under what president were shutdowns recommended?