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In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there a
No. No, it's not. You really, very obviously, have no idea how the law works.
To be clear, yes, it will be argued at trial, but it doesn't simply become important there. You need to realize that any evidence you gather after detaining or searching when you don't have probably cause will NOT BE ADMITTED. Many actions the agent might take become expressly illegal and/or unconstitutional without probably cause, opening him up to lawsuits or even prosecution.
This is not something to worry about later (now is later, for the record), this is something that is vitally important in "real-time."
More of a slow bleed than omg news items. Then add on restrictions on freedoms, more regulations and red tape. Pick your poison. Certainly better for illegal immigrants and people wanting handouts.
Ironically, MAGA and poor red states are some of the people and places that need handouts the most. But I guess that’s not an issue.
And which illegal immigrants has Trump successfully deported? They bungled the deportation of radical extremists like Mahmoud Khalil then transitioned to targeting hard working South Americans. And now they’re just shooting people in the streets. I can’t say I’ve been impressed.
Ya you'd think that sucks for them, but I imagine they have their priorities. Less handouts but they get ______? Maybe it's racism?
I think the issue is that they are voting against their best interest but I do sympathize with the limitations of the 2 party system. Regardless, I don’t think America would be in such a precarious position geopolitically under the Dems. Trump is really straining our relationships with long standing allies and Imo that’s not a good long term strategy.
No. No, it's not. You really, very obviously, have no idea how the law works.To be clear, yes, it will be argued at trial, but it doesn't simply become important there. You need to realize that any evidence you gather after detaining or searching when you don't have probably cause will NOT BE ADMITTED. Many actions the agent might take become expressly illegal and/or unconstitu
your missing the point no one cares about the legality it happens everyday with no punishment the arresting cop wont be punished like every arresting cop. they had the right to ask her for id its in the ice charter. the arrest is a little more dicy but no one cares it had nothing to do with the incident that followed im just trying to get you to stop tunneling on this pointless point . ill give you the win congrats now go block a road while honking and claim you have no right to be removed around ice . see what happens
searching someone by abusing a reason is like jay walking for a cop. no one cares its has nothing to do with the event that happened. its like using the 24 hold to find more
You're either dumber than Brian James or trolling. I don't care which.
im simply stating a fact you can choose to agree with it or not. or cling to a weird argument that no one cares about im not putting any effort into a pointless thing unrelated to the shooting anymore
if you want to keep arguing about a useless point ill be back tonight.
But its amazing that it keeps flying over your head that the officer asking her to leave the vehicle and the officer who shot her are completely different people and one has nothing to do with the other. One persons mistake does not make another person more guilty so you arguing if a completely different officer had the right to pull someone over for a traffic violation is pointless
If officer one is guilty of a bad arrest (hes not its pretty standard) it has nothing to do with the shooting anyway thats a completely seperate incident.
Heres a question. Do you think the officer who opened to door and tried to detain her would be ever punished shooting or no shooting? If your answer is no why does the reason he pulled her over even matter?
Not quite, at least not in principle. A motor vehicle can be a deadly weapon. See the recent case in Liverpool and the long stretch that the perpetrator will now have to serve (21 years 6 months) even though no one was killed.Again recently, a London police firearms officer was tried for murder after shooting and killing the driver of a car the police had stopped. (The plate wa
I saw a clip of JD Vance saying this guy was ran over by a car during a stop 6 months ago. If true, bro you should know better by now not to walk in front of a car while the engine is running. Or maybe he knew exactly what he was doing and had already predetermined that anyone trying that again is getting shot in the face as opposed to not putting himself in that situation per standard procedure or simply moving out of the way.
Seems like the type of guy that shouldn't have a gun, eh?
NOOOOOOO I enjoy debating crazy people its my joy in life. guys if you truly believe this was an unjustified detaining/arrest I dare you to mimic this on the street and find out
Don't give guns to any law enforcement officers that have ever been in an adverse situation before.
Amazing logic in thread.
Earlier discussion was about untrained recruits and now we don't want experienced officers to have guns either.
also ill make one last post on this silly subject to you silly people arguing law since it came up like 7 times where people keep saying this traffic violation nonsense. she was being a arrested for a real legit charge8 usc 1357grants immigration officers broad authority to interrogate, search, and arrest individuals (including citizens in limited cases) believed to be violatin
It’s a good start that you have found the statutes that provide summaries of the scope of their authority and limits thereto. You should probably read it again, try to understand it and apply your understanding to these facts. Unfortunately, you probably need to also cross reference the federal statutes on obstruction and synthesize the departments procedures for use of deadly force.
After you do this, let us know after you educate yourself if it changes your conclusions.
It’s a good start that you have found the statutes that provide summaries of the scope of their authority and limits thereto. You should probably read it again, try to understand it and apply your understanding to these facts. Unfortunately, you probably need to also cross reference the federal statutes on obstruction and synthesize the departments procedures for use of
I have read it multiple times heres how it would go in court
judge "what were your grounds"
ice agent "they were blocking and prohibiting my job of arresting an illegal alien so I assumed they were an illegal alien or aiding one and wanted to check their id"
judge "ok"
Like the absolutely insanity to think law enforcement shouldn't detain someone someone blocking 80% of the road slamming their horn and dancing in the car is showing democrat bias here. even if the law were on your side in real life situations that's what's going to happen
they going after powel
