The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
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The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance

Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.

03 February 2025 at 11:49 PM
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Do your own epidemiology.


by Nut Nut m

I'm curious what people think "resistance to Covid measures" might have looked like.

Strikes, walkouts, mass demonstrations, civil disobedience. You did get protests and people speaking out against it, but you also had many people supporting it and trying to get even more measures in place.

Overall I think there was too much support for stringent covid measures and too many states that did implement less measures for people to β€œresist”, at least in the US.

Maybe different elsewhere.


US was insane during covid. Fired from many jobs and couldn't travel if you didn't take an experimental vaccine inside your body.

That might even have been ok as an emergency measure if it stopped spread (you could argue about injuring others), but the vaccine did basically nothing to stop spread of covid - the vaccinated were first grade carriers and spreaders - so there was no rational reason to mandate it, less than for the flu.

Turkey took one of the sanest approaches - lock up the 65+ year olds, and let everyone else get on with their life normally. That at least made sense.


by pokerandfootlover m

lock up the 65+ year olds, and let everyone else get on with their life normally.

Yeah, let's do this now actually.


by whatthejish m

Yeah, let's do this now actually.

I'm 68 and endorse this message!


Mandami backed candidates sweep the NYC primary.

Socialism is rising.

The Democrats are on the way to rediscovering their populist roots. There may be hope for them after all.


by Nut Nut m

There isn't any need for any curfews. If you want to travel .... you make an arrangement just like today. Instead of a commercial provider of transit and lodging, some of your fellow citizens would be working to facilitate your needs. If you want to camping off the grid for a few weeks, your community will have access to the gear you require to accommodate. If you want to trave

That is certainly different than what you've suggested before. Can I leave oversees and stay there now?

If there are no gates or wires, who's preventing them from deciding they'd prefer an alternative to your living arrangements?


by whatthejish m

Yeah, let's do this now actually.

Or at least take away their driver licenses.


by formula72 m

That is certainly different than what you've suggested before. Can I leave oversees and stay there now?

If there are no gates or wires, who's preventing them from deciding they'd prefer an alternative to your living arrangements?

Because there would be uniform laws applying to all communities regarding a ban on certain types of pollution.

There would be any community in the world that would allow personal ownership of personal combustion vehicles. There wouldn't be any more private gas stations. There would be no place to purchase fritos or coca-cola in disposable plastic packaging. There will be no more jet skis or yachts. No commercial airlines.

If you wanted to live among a group of Christians, that would be fine. If you wanted to live with a group of people that practiced polygamy, that would be fine. If you wanted to live in a community that either embraced or banned trans people, that would be fine. If you want to go live in a hut in the woods and grow your own veggies, fish and hunt deer, that would be fine. If you want to live on a sailboat, that would be fine.

There would be maximum lifestyle flexibility with the exception of access to polluting behavior.

There would no longer be "nations" as currently defined. Territory would be sorted by cultural and lifestyle preferences which would largely begin along existing cultural preferences.

In a place like South Carolina, a white state majority government would no longer have dominion and make rules for largely black communities currently located in that territory. The territory of Wisconsin would lose the current right to forbid the banning of single use plastic bags. They would be banned globally. No matter where you lived, you would no longer be able to go to a supermarket and walk out with your food in disposable plastic packaging.


I'm not a person who wants hyper control of what people do.

We just need control of what people don't do just as we have current laws banning murder and theft. Those need to be expanded to deadly pollution and overuse of scarce vital resources like water. The freedom to pollute is at the epicenter of the current world economic system and its leading to species extinction.

The essence of the future government is anti-extinction. It's opponents are pro-extinction, whether intentionally or otherwise.


At no time have I suggested that people would be living a lacked and gated communities. That's all part of your imagination.


I say, hell yeah.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/25...

Centrist Democrats are freaking out about progressives’ winning streak


by biggerboat m

Billionaire donors don't like progressives.


by biggerboat m

the "progressive" Brad Lander who has invested 100s of millions of NY citizen funds into Israeli firms including the child murdering Elbit Systems. truly sickening that these people are lauded as something different.


by geezerchess m

Billionaire donors don't like progressives.

Exactly.


by Nut Nut m

I'm not a person who wants hyper control of what people do. We just need control of what people don't do just as we have current laws banning murder and theft. Those need to be expanded to deadly pollution and overuse of scarce vital resources like water. The freedom to pollute is at the epicenter of the current world economic system and its leading to species extinction. The e

Yeah, I'm going venture a guess that you were smirking when you penned out that first part.

You make sound arguments with wanting to curb plastics or unnecessary overcomsumption but then its back to removal of money with assigned jobs with the reward being to serve the "environment."

Then its banning air travel so we can spend weeks delivering all this food and water via boats with such a massive costly infrastructure system and lodging and manpower from literal slaves who didnt voluntarily agree to any of this with notion that they will all be cared for with all the necessities that a prison inmate receives - all while doing this globally without any locks or gates - while quite possibly causing more emissions for the entire process.

There is really no chance that if we were to solve every environmental issue and replace it with a sustainable model to prevent any of this from ever happening again that it would alleviate your good faith need to control what others do. This is just personality trait.

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