US Immigration Crisis

US Immigration Crisis

I didn’t see an immigration thread so I figured I would add one. This problem seems to be worsening everyday of the current admin. Hopefully some of our new elected officials can help with this. Mr. Luttrell is a great start

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20 April 2023 at 04:46 PM
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by Luciom k

I have lived 4 years in Rio, and favelas allowed people who otherwise would in many cases be homeless easy access to a roof over their heads.

And the existence of favelas made housing in non-top areas fairly cheap as well, given the far lower demand pressure (compared to what it would have been without favelas).

Bidonvilles in general achieve that.

Ofc the "Montreal's" of the world are aghast at the existence of the "terrible bidonvilles", want to regulate them out of existence, and when they manag

How many fire happened in those places ?
It’s not to regulate out of their places , it’s to prove you that the life’s of those people wont get better despite what you believe .

Have you ever eaten in non regulatory restaurant where you easily can get sick since you know , food regulations is bad for businesss .
Then good luck finding an hospital nearby if I don’t have one near …
I went in those places and what you say about society would be much better is just horse$h!t , they end up in general far more poorer then society with government intervention about some critical ressources ….

Obviously if u live in the center of a city with big money you are fine but it didn’t for far more people and life is much more difficult with much more problem like criminality , etc .


It's worth noting that I believe some regulations are needed. I'm mostly concerned with regulations preventing new homes from being built because of some arbitrary rules designed mainly to protect the interests of current homeowners, those regulations shouldn't really exist. You either do what benefits everyone or most (environment regulations for example), or you don't do anything at all if doing something will create a conflict of interests, as a public servant.

"If I give this to you, I will have to give it to your brother and sister, and also to all the other kids in the neigborhood, and I don't have the money, so I won't give you anything." My father


by Peace&Love k

It's worth noting that I believe some regulations are needed. I'm mostly concerned with regulations preventing new homes from being built because of some arbitrary rules designed mainly to protect the interests of current homeowners, those regulations shouldn't really exist. You either do what benefits everyone or most (environment regulations for example), or you don't do anything at all if doing something will create a conflict of interests, as a public servant.

"If I give this to you, I will h

Regulations are needed for common property, and for "intangible" property like view access and whatnot.

But i mean a company or association or NGO should be able to buy land inr andom places and just build a town with 0 regulation


by Luciom k

Is maths racist?

Professor Rowena Ball at the Australian National University (ANU) thinks so.

Professor Ball leads a research and teaching initiative called Mathematics Without Borders, aimed at “broadening and diversifying the cultural base and content of mathematics.”

“Mathematics has been gatekept by the West and defined to exclude entire cultures. Almost all mathematics that students have ever come across is European-based,” she recently claimed. “We would like to enrich the discipline through

More Luciom nonsense. That talks about how maths is taught in the classroom, not about whether 2+2 is ever not 4, and yet again you’re lying.


by BGnight k

Ok, I'll be gracious and allow 1% to stay if they go through the lawful process. That's BEYOND reasonable. Why do you hate the laws of your own country? Do you remember 911? I guess you don't care about terrorist infiltration and about innocent lives of Americans. Pretty shitty.

Should I be allowed to move to Switzerland and become a citizen by simply crossing their border?

Up to a certain threshold of population density, yes.


by BGnight k

This simply isn't true. A white man has a 10'xs harder road to land a coveted job than a minority in many, many fields. Do you deny that Ivy league schools are discriminating against Asian and white people?

Remind me again why Ivy League schools are engaged in an effort to suppress white people? Like, what's in it for the (mostly white) admins and donors?


by Trolly McTrollson k

Remind me again why Ivy League schools are engaged in an effort to suppress white people? Like, what's in it for the (mostly white) admins and donors?

Bro there was a Supreme Court case about it. You can just go read about it instead of wondering why.


by Luciom k

Regulations are needed for common property, and for "intangible" property like view access and whatnot.

But i mean a company or association or NGO should be able to buy land inr andom places and just build a town with 0 regulation

What about building safety regulations? Should this be left for the customers and companies to judge, and the economic incentive will take care of it?


by Peace&Love k

What about building safety regulations? Should this be left for the customers and companies to judge, and the economic incentive will take care of it?

yes without doubts when it's building that don't share walls with others and have distance from other property. On your own land at least x meters (feet for your guys) from other buildings literally no rule should exist, in a "property right" sense, in a "the state shouldn't be legally allowed to regulate" it.

Insurance companies and banks will decide the amount of regulations they need to finance and to insure , and that's the proper amount, unless you don't want insurance or finance in which case the proper amount is decided by yourself.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

Bro there was a Supreme Court case about it. You can just go read about it instead of wondering why.

How about you either answer the question or sit this one out? Vaguely directing me to read "a Supreme Court case about it" while being a condescending ass isn't productive here.


by Luciom k

yes without doubts when it's building that don't share walls with others and have distance from other property. On your own land at least x meters (feet for your guys) from other buildings literally no rule should exist, in a "property right" sense, in a "the state shouldn't be legally allowed to regulate" it.

Insurance companies and banks will decide the amount of regulations they need to finance and to insure , and that's the proper amount, unless you don't want insurance or finance in which ca

I don't disagree with you on this.

The last thing I would like to point out is that no regulation really should mean no regulation. Regulation shouldn't be pro-consumer, pro-safety, every businesses hands are tied up and nothing goes on, but it shouldn't be pro business or help businesses either. Government is completely out of the economy and if your business go busto and jobs are lost, sorry, not my problem.


by Peace&Love k

I don't disagree with you on this.

The last thing I would like to point out is that no regulation really should mean no regulation. Regulation shouldn't be pro-consumer, pro-safety, every businesses hands are tied up and nothing goes on, but it shouldn't be pro business or help businesses either. Government is completely out of the economy and if your business go busto and jobs are lost, sorry, not my problem.

Sure, one of the main reasons why regulations almost always cause more pain than gain is that no matter the original intentions to set up the regulatory framework, it gets fagocitated by narrow interests who live or die on regulations.

Once you have a sizeable amount of "experts" making their whole living on counseling on regulations, and once the main companies have paid the costs to be able to follow the regulations, they become entrenched in asking for ever-more insane regulations as a barrier to competition, or just as rent-seeking for the moats they built (either compliance moats, or having become an "expert" on the insane rules, so a needed person to hire if anything has to be done).

That's also why actual experts on those topics are usually the last ones to ask about any attempt to reduce regulation. They entire livelihood requires regulations to be insane on purpose, that's how they make a killing.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

Ty. I guess it’s too much to expect people to do some prior research before mouthing off.

I think i misclicked and got deleted, but you saved it lol


I've been thinking about how two of the worst deplorables here could only come up the word "criminal" to describe millions of men, women, and children who have come here under the worst possible circumstances in order to have a better life. That's how they view people who's only "crime" is simply to exist here.

Those same deplorables stand up and applaud when 1600 actual criminals serving time get off scot-free.

These are your people

One of those defendants, Matthew Huttle, was recently shot and killed by law enforcement in Indiana during a traffic stop just days after receiving a pardon for his role in the Capitol riot.

Theodore Middendorf was accused by Illinois prosecutors of "Predatory Criminal Sexual Assault of a Child." Prosecutors said in a court filing obtained by NPR that Middendorf "committed an act of sexual penetration." Indiana state records indicate that Middendorf's victim was 7 years old.

Peter Schwartz had a "jaw-dropping criminal history of 38 prior convictions going back to 1991" when he assaulted police officers with pepper spray on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors.

Arrest warrant records alleged that Daniel Ball of Florida threw an "explosive device that detonated upon at least 25 officers" during the Capitol riot and also "forcefully" shoved police trying to protect the building. According to charging documents, Ball had a criminal record before his arrest for Jan. 6, including for "Domestic Violence Battery by Strangulation," "Resisting Law Enforcement with Violence," and "Battery on Law Enforcement Officer."

Andrew Taake of Texas pleaded guilty to assaulting police officers with bear spray and a "metal whip" on Jan. 6 and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Kasey Hopkins, "has a lengthy and troubling criminal history" including a 2002 conviction for "forcible rape," which resulted in a seven-year prison sentence, according to prosecutors' sentencing memorandum for his Jan. 6 case.

In 2004, Edward Richmond Jr. was serving in the U.S. Army when he "was convicted of manslaughter after shooting a hand-cuffed Iraqi cow herder in the head with his rifle,"

Jonathan Gennaro Mellis had a previous felony criminal conviction for drug trafficking — conspiracy to manufacture or sell methamphetamine — which resulted in a 20-year prison sentence, court documents state. Prosecutors said he also had a history of arrests, which did not result in conviction, including for domestic assault.

Benjamin Martin pled to obstruction of a public officer in 2003, a 2016 battery charge where he repeatedly struck his 14-year-old daughter, and a 2018 battery charge where Martin choked his girlfriend and dragged her back into the house after she tried to flee," prosecutors wrote.

Edward Hemenway "has a serious criminal history, dating back to 2004," prosecutors said in their arguments during sentencing in the Jan. 6 case. In 2006, Hemenway pleaded guilty to "Sexual Battery and Criminal Confinement" and was initially sentenced to three years in prison.

So in your tiny xenophobic racist brains, you label working men and women, and children, as "criminals," but these scumbags are "heroes."

And, speaking of "criminals," you've decided to elevate CONVICTED FELON to the highest office in the land.

You absolutely disgust me in every possible way.


by bahbahmickey k

Yeah, these past 4 years have been a pretty good time to be a white male in America unless you wanted a new job, promotion, small biz loan, get into college and a few other things.

by biggerboat k

This is some truly racist bullshit.

by Luckbox Inc k

Ok I'll bite-- what is racist about it? Assuming even that it's factually incorrect, why would saying that white people are discriminated against be racist?

Isn't the idea to end discrimination?

by microbet k

Point is that you have to be racist to believe it's factually correct. Especially the getting a job and promotion part.

boat and micro, you may want to look into this.

I'm not sure how you can disagree that in many companies and gov't agencies it is easier to get a job if you are not white and/or male. That was the whole point of DEI - to decrease the importance of skills and merit and increase the value of race and sex.

There are small biz loan programs that are for only women or only minorities - there are not all programs that give loans only to men or whites.

It is extremely well documented that in many/most colleges it is easier to get admitted if you are a certain minority and more difficult if you are white or another minority.


by bahbahmickey k

boat and micro, you may want to look into this.

I'm not sure how you can disagree that in many companies and gov't agencies it is easier to get a job if you are not white and/or male. That was the whole point of DEI - to decrease the importance of skills and merit and increase the value of race and sex.

There are small biz loan programs that are for only women or only minorities - there are not all programs that give loans only to men or whites.

It is extremely well documented that in many/most

That wasn't the assertion I said was untrue. If you can't see the difference, I'm not sure how further discussion about it is possible.


White people can still at least get into state schools and community colleges if they apply themselves a little....I think they'll be fine.


by biggerboat k

You absolutely disgust me in every possible way.

This is not the flex you think it is.

A bunch of people you quoted here shouldn't have been out on the streets to protest on Jan 6th in the first place. Letting them off for a protest is the least of our worries as a society.

We need more, bigger, better prisons in this country. Clearly having the most prisoners per capita by a large margin is not good enough.


by Inso0 k

This is not the flex you think it is.

A bunch of people you quoted here shouldn't have been out on the streets to protest on Jan 6th in the first place. Letting them off for a protest is the least of our worries as a society.

We need more, bigger, better prisons in this country. Clearly having the most prisoners per capita by a large margin is not good enough.

I absolutely disagree. We have a huge swath of the population now that strongly believes that if you bow down to trump, you shouldn't be held accountable for anything you do. It's fine to be however bad you might be as long as you support trump. In fact, that sort of thing is rewarded now with cabinet positions.


That's an entirely different topic.

I want to get back to the part where we start locking people who can't behave themselves up and throw away the key.

Go pick those Jan 6th rapists and murderers back up and bring them back to a cell. But also, keep deporting illegals.

I can have my cake and eat it, too. It's not very hard.


by BGnight k

Deport EVERY LAST one of the criminal invaders. Only 20+ million to go.

Ssh. Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting migwants... 😀


Dems think this is some sort of gotcha I guess


also dont quote me but I heard the numbers are just wrong. bidens numbers include people getting turned away at the border. politics have never been the best with the facts. Its better read as "an extra 7000 people" and its targeted at people with violent crimes. It turns out people don't try to illegally cross the border when you actively campaign against it


by MoViN.tArGeT k

also dont quote me but I heard the numbers are just wrong. bidens numbers include people getting turned away at the border. politics have never been the best with the facts. Its better read as "an extra 7000 people" and its targeted at people with violent crimes. It turns out people don't try to illegally cross the border when you actively campaign against it

The first thing bolded is right. There's a big difference between removals and returns and the vast majority of these cases in the Biden admin were Title 42 "expulsions", which I do not support and never did, but they were denying people entry into the US because of COVID.

eta: I don't think the last sentence is right and I doubt there is very much connection between what a candidate campaigns on and how many people try to cross the border. COVID, jobs, politics and other events in the source countries has a lot more to do with this. Most of the people crossing probably never thought about who was campaigning for what in the USA.


It has to have some effect but ya I don't know how much

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