US Immigration Crisis

what unhinged in having Colombia take back it's citizens who are illegally in the USA?

I’m not sure what you want. To attract top talent google, meta etc are willing to pay US salaries and sponsor visas even for many remote intro level jobs. What they are doing is legal. You can try to get the law changed but you don’t really have much power beyond that in employment contracts in which you are not a party.

Personally, everyone I’ve hired, which is only 5 people have been foreign born through EB1 visas. Most of the work can be done remotely but I much prefer to have everyone on the same continent, build team cohesion, meet up every so often etc. Trumpers can disagree but my view is I don't care and the burden is on them to get me to change.

I know you know the answer to this, but for all the confused people in the back: The part where the President of the United States of America bullies a foreign leader into submission and then posts an AI photo of himself made up like a mobster with a "**** Around and Find Out" sign in the background.

If these idiots are going to fly people back to their home country can't they even do it right? Charter a 747 and fly 450 back at a time for a couple hundred grand vs spending $800k to fly 80.

Where's DOGE when you need them.

Some people might find that quite stimulating.

Now accepting applications for flight attendants to provide drink service to 450 hardened criminals all stuffed into commercial airline seating on their way back to some 3rd world country.

When the hijacking fails and it crashes into the Gulf of America, it'll be a PR nightmare for Delta.

Is there evidence that they're sending back criminals or is it just anyone they have in custody?

why do you think it would be better to stay within the "stern diplomatic letters" framework that Nazis and the USSR (among others) used?

why do you give so much weight to form, why are you such a conservative on form?

what's this fetishizing form that never stopped genocides, mass butchering, all the violence we had while ambassadors were treated as foreign lord's, "called "dignitaries" and wined and dined the day before leaving during a war?

I think it's far better to be more transparent and treat trash like trash. Colombia tried to piss outside of the vase, and it properly got mocked for it.

it's criminals necessarily or we would have to wait for courts, appeals and whatnot

Maybe, maybe not, but this first push was specifically directed toward people who are in the US criminal justice system for not behaving themselves here. They know where to find them, but nobody bothered to go knock on their doors until now.

Is it normal to refuse to allow back citizens of your country who are deported from other countries they were in illegally? Or does the President of Columbia just see the USA as a sucker nation he can push around? If Ireland or Germany (just to give 2 random examples) deported Columbians in their country illegally, would Columbia tell them to **** off and they had to keep them?

Petro probably saw it as an opportunity to score some points and caving to Trump isn't going to hurt him any. It's not going to help much either but he at least doesn't come off as a total and complete pushover.

Note that Mexico also denied some military flights and we didn't hear anything about a Trump response.

Both Mexico and the US are downplaying this, although it seems it did happen. So it seems at this time both sides have decided to work things out quietly.

That doesn’t make them “hardened criminals”. Some of them were probably arrested for doing things that a white person like you would have been left alone. You’re being racist.

Nah. The American criminal justice system isn't racist, and it isn't overbearing. It actually takes a lot to end up in jail.

Most undocumented persons, especially in blue states like the one I live in, can go their whole lives and never be bothered by the Justice system at all. The metro area I live in literally have millions of undocumented workers who will live a completely normal (lower class) American life and no one will bother them.

They will find work, they will rent an apartment, their kids will go to school, their family will get medical care, they will get driver licenses, they will go on vacations, and the police wont bother them at all. Virtually identical to the life someone born here in the same SES bracket.

It actually takes a lot to end up in the criminal justice system.

That being said, there are A LOT of undocumented citizens involved in organized crime (almost all military aged male); centered around the drug and human trafficking/prostitution trade. And these are the people (along with drug users who resort to petty crime to fund their lifestyle) who tend to end up in the justice system. Same as native born people.

As a Brit you would probably have a hard time conceptualizing just how big and organized cartel operations are here. The Pakistani and Gypsy gangs are nothing compared to them. Even the prostitution (child and adult) rings are bigger. The only difference is the cartels stick to their own girls to traffic and use as prostitutes, so no one really cares.

That being said, the cartel operations here are motivated by economic interests, not ideological, so "terrorism" isn't really a correct designation.

So it seems they are targeting churches and schools, where the hardened criminals are no doubt.

And, I'm sure an arrest quota won't result in anything bad happening. Nope, not at all.

Are they actually singling out churches and schools as priority targets, or is that just something you saw on reddit?

Then again, Don the Don might know that the fastest way to get the bad guys to react without thinking is to go after their mothers and children. All part of the plan.

Spending god knows how much money to ship productive workers to Columbia on military flights just makes too much sense, looking forward to seeing my grocery bills plummet.

Colombia

Columbia is the US like DC or Columbia, MD or MO or numerous other cities.

Colombia is the country.

Which is so weird because afaik we (italians) are the only ones to spell Columbus as Colombo.

It also gets you into very weird phrasings such as "the Pre-Columbian history of Colombia"

Not really sure what Colombia's president smoke to come up with such idea that it was smart to risk a trade war to prove his point, but let me explain why there was a reaction to the handcuffs and chains, from Brazil's perspective at least.

Those tools are used when arresting people perceived to be dangerous in some way, like if you were caught robbing someone at gun point, to prevent escape and any risk to the officers and innocent bystanders. You won't see it used during arrests involving white-collar crimes for example, because such objective risks will not exist. Using handcuffs would only be a way to create a spectacle while humiliating the suspect, and the authorities would just risk being successfully sued by the exact suspect they are trying to prosecute.

So yes, Trump trying to create a spectacle with those deportations to get political gains is what's triggering the people down here. But this Gustavo Petro guy is an *****, he was involved in feuds with argentine's president Milei before. Only now he pissed the wrong guy I guess, and paid the price.

As a leftist, I do not believe in immigration to America. This is a horrible racist place where you can't get free healthcare and everyone hates everyone who isn't a white male. By contrast, Mexico and many European countries are diverse and welcoming to minorities. I care very deeply about migrants and wish them to be in countries that care about them.

That's fine. People should live where they want and you may well be correct to advise people to go somewhere else. But, if you love freedom, you'll want to leave it up to them.

Say I want to sell my house and someone who lives below 32 degrees latitude wants to buy it. Can you imagine how much someone would have to loathe freedom to want to interfere with that?

ICE kidnapping construction workers

You need to up your photoshop game, sir.