Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by corpus vile k

She's been part of the Italian neo fascist movement since she's 15 so yeah she's absolutely fa right and we've had this convo before, I get you disagree and that's ok. She's still far right. I don't see any difference between far and alt right and feel you're talking semantics, but you do have my apologies if I offended your far right sensibilities.

Need to do far right policies to be far right. I agree a lot of the polish right is far right (not alt right) which for example is why they banned abortion. And they passed laws allowing soldiers to shoot to kill at trespassers on the border, that's far right i agree.

What did Meloni actually do in 2 years to be considered far right? she governs with a reasonably big majority so she can basically pass any law that is constitutional & abides to EU treaties. We have no constitutional right to abortion and there is no constitutional right to abortion in EU treaties (which is why it is illegal to have an abortion in Malta).

Meloni didn't touch abortion laws.

It's not about sensibilities but using words with some meaning. If Meloni is far right, how do you call someone who is exceptionally to the right of her, like the polish themselves we were discussing? Meloni just gave a fiscal bonus to mothers who have jobs, that is the polar opposite of being far right. The far right doesn't want women to be working when they have kids, and they build the fiscal system toward that (see Hungary and Poland again).


by Luciom k

Need to do far right policies to be far right. I agree a lot of the polish right is far right (not alt right) which for example is why they banned abortion. And they passed laws allowing soldiers to shoot to kill at trespassers on the border, that's far right i agree.

What did Meloni actually do in 2 years to be considered far right? she governs with a reasonably big majority so she can basically pass any law that is constitutional & abides to EU treaties. We have no constitutional right to abort

Abortion is legal in Italy since the 70s and for a far rightist Meloni strikes me as surprisingly shrewd, so it's no surprise she won't unnecessarily rock the boat by touching laws in place for nearly 50 years. I've already given my very valid reason how she's fr right and again totally get you disagree. Now granted maybe she's not far right enough for you- but she's still far right. Maybe if she wasn't involved with neo Fascism for over 30 years I might not consider her as far right. But she is so I do.


by checkraisdraw k

If their intent was simply to genocide, why would they be going after the leadership and facilitating humanitarian aid to prevent starvation?


by jalfrezi k

How do you think this is a response to the bolded


Come on, you can do it.


Crossnerd, thanks for doing a nearly thankless job.


by Bill Haywood k

Crossnerd, thanks for doing a nearly thankless job.

Dunno if serious, but modding is very richly thanked on this and every other forum - especially if you count people calling it "thankless" as thanks.


Crossnerd is so awesome I thank her DESPITE her modding.


by corpus vile k

That account is a known alt right source that's been proven to have propagated fake news in the past so it's hardly a valid source

According to Victor's post above, it's old repurposed footage from the West Bank and nothing to do with Gaza.



Lol, thanks you guys


by jalfrezi k

Come on, you can do it.

no, I can’t. Mainly because the linked tweet actually supports what I was saying about Israel coordinating aid efforts. If they weren’t coordinating aid efforts, why would there be thousands of people queuing up to get bread?


Lots of countries have coordinated aid to the people they are genociding.


The PA attended the BRICS conference and expressed a desire to join BRICS. I think they should absolutely join BRICS and make Russia and China their sponsors, and the West should stop funding UNRWA.


A domicile for journalists in Lebanon

, killing three.

Eighteen journalists from seven news organizations were at the site of the strike


following up on that, they were giving their location to the IDF. story as old as time, or I guess as old as Oct 7th when time started.



Being a war time journalist is a dangerous job.


by jalfrezi k

The accusations of genocide by Israel are essentially an act on behalf of the terrorists in my opinion. It's amazing how easily brainwashed some people are by the Iranian government. The people parroting these lies will soon realize the error of their ways. It will be interesting to see who is man enough to come on hear and admit they were wrong.


by jalfrezi k

These look like Israelis. I hope you are not cheering on the death of these innocent young men.


by mongidig k

Being a war time journalist is a dangerous job.

You say that like it was an accident. But the journalism house had shared their coordinates with the IDF to be safe, and then they got targeted for it.


by Trolly McTrollson k

Better to get bombed in your home than in a refugee tent.

Even better not to house and give aid to the terrorists.


by mongidig k

The accusations of genocide by Israel are essentially an act on behalf of the terrorists in my opinion.

I would like to unsubscribe from your newsletter, then.


by chezlaw k

It's being obviously recorded.

Even the worst view of the idf wouldn't have them killing a kid sitting in a chair whilst on camera

Everything is being recorded.


by Bill Haywood k

You say that like it was an accident. But the journalism house had shared their coordinates with the IDF to be safe, and then they got targeted for it.

It's not different from any other time, if any terrorist or terrorist material supporter was there, it was a completly fair target to hit.

And sharing coordinates doesn't allow you to shelter terrorists in a building.

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