Israel/Palestine thread
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I think that was exactly his point mongo. he is saying that very few think like him.
Woke up to atrocious images of Gazan dads holding their young daughters whose heads were half missing. Would any on #teamIDF like to see them?
I would suggest stop waking up looking for trouble. This must be a horrible way to start your day. I personally wake up and give thanks for all that I have. I couldn't imagine intentionally immersing myself into tragic stories that are probably made up or taken out of context.
Hezbollah has rarely released videos since the invasion. they have claimed 37 tanks destroyed and Israel has admitted to like 80 deaths and 100 wounded.
heres a video that isnt graphic although you can see the operator outside the hatch before impact. the camera cuts out right on impact which is aimed directly at the back of the tank where I would guess the ammo is stored.
this is looking kind of like early vids from the Russian invasion where the tanks are just sitting ducks. although the Ukrainians were using different anti-tank guns. not sure which are better.
Israel is going to need to find a way to protect against this weaponry or take Russian type losses if they want to get anywhere with this invasion.
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lol nah
37 tanks
The 37 tanks number is completely untrue.
that is the same false information from the 2006 war.
i can elaborate more on this issue, but it is useless.
once you believe Hezbollah propaganda, you have practically stepped away from reason and logic to fantasy land.
Another shocker
Hezbollah has rarely released videos since the invasion. they have claimed 37 tanks destroyed and Israel has admitted to like 80 deaths and 100 wounded.
heres a video that isnt graphic although you can see the operator outside the hatch before impact. the camera cuts out right on impact which is aimed directly at the back of the tank where I would guess the ammo is stored.
this is looking kind of like early vids from the Russian invasion where the tanks are just sitting ducks. although the Ukra
every claim here is fake.
lets give real numbers:
since the start of the ground invasion, 22 Israeli soldiers were killed. since October 7th, 48 killed.
on the other hand - so far more than 2,000 Hezbollah militants have been killed, including the entire leadership.
try spinning those numbers to an Israeli lose Mr victor.
ok buddy. I will continue to believe my lying eyes.
Interesting
with John Mearsheimer by Chris Hedges.
Israel wants to embroil the US in a war with Iran. A wider conflagration will provide cover for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and Gaza, a repeat of 1948 and 1967. Washington does not want war with Iran.
Mearsheimer also says the horror at the genocide is leading Iran and Saudi to talk. The Shia/Sunni divide is narrowing in the face of the Israeli wars.
Israeli military doctrine has always been directed toward short wars. Now they are bogged down in three protracted wars at once.
Israelis are emigrating in droves, maybe as many as 500,000. Expect even more secular Israelis to leave after the war ends and they've taken stock. Israel will get even harsher as liberals leave.
The IDF is having trouble getting the reservists back for second and third tours.
you didn't see one tank in Lebanon being destroyed.
all you have shown is a video of a missile being fired on a tank, not even the aftermath.
at list be honest, cause you keep stating knowingly untrue claims.
Hamas just managed to destroy a tank in Gaza (was an old tank that was used by trainees). we reported it, as we report all facts.
Unlike our neighbors, we do not hide the real event, good or bad.
ya maybe the missile didnt explode.
Interesting
with John Mearsheimer by Chris Hedges.Israel wants to embroil the US in a war with Iran. A wider conflagration will provide cover for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and Gaza, a repeat of 1948 and 1967. Washington does not want war with Iran.
Mearsheimer also says the horror at the genocide is leading Iran and Saudi to talk. The Shia/Sunni divide is narrowing in the face of the Israeli wars.
Israeli military doctrine has always been directed toward short wars. Now they are
Neither of these guys have any idea what they are talking about and you should ignore 90% of what they say. They are two of the most boorish “America bad” commentators coasting off their old reputations.
You say that like it was an accident. But the journalism house had shared their coordinates with the IDF to be safe, and then they got targeted for it.
Things like this appear to have happened on a suspicious number of occasions. Suspicious to the point that we seem to be dealing with a rogue state.
Interesting
with John Mearsheimer by Chris Hedges.Israel wants to embroil the US in a war with Iran. A wider conflagration will provide cover for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and Gaza, a repeat of 1948 and 1967. Washington does not want war with Iran.
Mearsheimer also says the horror at the genocide is leading Iran and Saudi to talk. The Shia/Sunni divide is narrowing in the face of the Israeli wars.
Israeli military doctrine has always been directed toward short wars. Now they are
It is really getting boring, having to face such BS and fake news.
1. Salman was having talks with Iran even before the war. the divide is still huge and in any case Saudi's don't represent the entire sunni world.
2. more than 500,000 left Israel since October 7th, that is true. what Mearsheimer the liar does not tell you is that 300,000 already came back, and around 200,000 jews made Aliyah.
3. Liberals aren't leaving and we are still here.
4. there is no shortage of soldiers and reserve. yes we are tired and yes we do want to get back to our lives, but we are highly motivated to finish the war. unlike Russia that had to close borders and force recruit criminals (and now import northern Koreans), we have more volunteers than needed.
Interesting
with John Mearsheimer by Chris Hedges.Israel wants to embroil the US in a war with Iran. A wider conflagration will provide cover for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and Gaza, a repeat of 1948 and 1967. Washington does not want war with Iran.
Mearsheimer also says the horror at the genocide is leading Iran and Saudi to talk. The Shia/Sunni divide is narrowing in the face of the Israeli wars.
Israeli military doctrine has always been directed toward short wars. Now they are
Mearsheimer is a renowned knucklehead and Putin fanboy.
Interesting
with John Mearsheimer by Chris Hedges.Israel wants to embroil the US in a war with Iran. A wider conflagration will provide cover for ethnic cleansing of the West Bank and Gaza, a repeat of 1948 and 1967. Washington does not want war with Iran.
Mearsheimer also says the horror at the genocide is leading Iran and Saudi to talk. The Shia/Sunni divide is narrowing in the face of the Israeli wars.
Israeli military doctrine has always been directed toward short wars. Now they are
and lots of them are committing suicide which is something thats been kind of whispered about for like 6 months. turns out that doing plausible genocide is not good for the brain.
incidentally, google tells me that over 30k Iraq/Afghanistan vets have killed themselves.
or maybe it was shot down by the wind coat system (read about it), or did not penetrate or missed or 100 of other possibilities that are more plausible as if Hezbollah would have finally managed to destroy one tank, I'm sure they would have celebrated it and share videos.
and lots of them are committing suicide which is something thats been kind of whispered about for like 6 months. turns out that doing plausible genocide is not good for the brain.
incidentally, google tells me that over 30k Iraq/Afghanistan vets have killed themselves.
Again - what is many?
the number is 12 so far.
it is on par with average suicide rates in the army every year (13 a year).
god dammit Victor, are you a one man fake news machine
It is really getting boring, having to face such BS and fake news.
1. Salman was having talks with Iran even before the war. the divide is still huge and in any case Saudi's don't represent the entire sunni world.
2. more than 500,000 left Israel since October 7th, that is true. what Mearsheimer the liar does not tell you is that 300,000 already came back, and around 200,000 jews made Aliyah.
3. Liberals aren't leaving and we are still here.
4. there is no shortage of soldiers and reserve. yes we
That doesn't imply that Mearsheimer was lying and, in fact, he didn't even say 500,000 Israelis left since October 7th. (Hedges said there were such estimates)
every claim here is fake.
lets give real numbers:
since the start of the ground invasion, 22 Israeli soldiers were killed. since October 7th, 48 killed.
on the other hand - so far more than 2,000 Hezbollah militants have been killed, including the entire leadership.
try spinning those numbers to an Israeli lose Mr victor.
I think your analysis is right and Israel has barely had any losses, civilian or military since Oct 7th, Hamas and Hezbollah have had huge losses as well as the civilian populations of Gaza and Lebanon, and Israel has an extremely powerful, disciplined, motivated, and well supplied military and no one in the region poses a serious threat to them.
Congrats!
