Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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they also canvased South Lebanon with white phosphorus too.

but we all know that rules do not apply to the West and its proxies such as Israel.


by gotwoot k

Are all the reports of Israel using white phosphorus, which btw is a chemical weapon, fake?

Asking for millions of non-Zionist’s in the area.

Yes, they are mostly fake.


Israel literally admits to using white phosphorus lol

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rights-gro...


by gotwoot k

Are all the reports of Israel using white phosphorus, which btw is a chemical weapon, fake?

Asking for millions of non-Zionist’s in the area.

Maybe there are definitions as wp being a chemical weapon, war crime, etc... but the US has been using it forever. Doesn't move the needle until Russia or someone else uses it I guess but it's been pretty standard since 2003 at least.


by 5 south k

Maybe there are definitions as wp being a chemical weapon, war crime, etc... but the US has been using it forever. Doesn't move the needle until Russia or someone else uses it I guess but it's been pretty standard since 2003 at least.

I dont think any legitimate news outlet has ever accused Israel of using it outside of accepted practice in accordance with international military laws. As opposed to Russia, which has been accused repeatedly of using it to target Ukrainian soldiers during battles.

So mostly fake news.


by metsandfinsfan k

Not true

jalfrezi makes more sense...


by Dunyain k

I dont think any legitimate news outlet has ever accused Israel of using it outside of accepted practice in accordance with international military laws. As opposed to Russia, which has been accused repeatedly of using it to target Ukrainian soldiers during battles.

So mostly fake news.

Come on, everyone uses it as an offensive weapon. That's why only the the anti war group whinges about it and everyone else gave up bitching about it.


December 2024, 6:25 pm
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Israel is in “constant dialogue” with the Druze community in Syria, says a senior Israeli official, adding that “there are also things beyond the dialogue.”

I wouldn't be shocked if Israel helps them immigrate to Golan Israel where everyone can practice religion freely

In conversations with the US and other Western countries, Israel has been stressing the importance of protecting minority groups in Syria.

The new government in Damascus, says the official on condition of anonymity, is led by people who are “very extreme, who were involved in terrorism, people with a radical Islamist ideology that are trying to present themselves right now as moderates.”

As others have stated, this new leadership, while likely good for the region, probably not good for the Syrian people:(

The best outcome for Israel, says the official, is a Syria that becomes a federation of autonomous ethnic regions.

Let's hope

With Russia’s position in Syria weakened, Israel has discussed shifting its stance toward Ukraine, says the official, and has brought up the issue with one of its allies. For now, however, Israel is waiting to see what stance the incoming Trump administration will take, and what capabilities Russia will maintain in Syria.

I'd be key shocked if Israel turned on Russia

Most of Israel’s strikes on Syria’s strategic military hardware “are behind us,” continues the official. The official adds that the strikes included chemical weapons, long-range missiles, ground-to-sea missiles and fighter jets.

Israel feels that allies in the West accept the IDF’s moves into the buffer zone between Syria and Israel, the official adds.

Today's Times of Israel article


by 5 south k

Maybe there are definitions as wp being a chemical weapon, war crime, etc... but the US has been using it forever.

lol, the US never gives a **** about international law. OFC we use banned chemical weapons and landmines whenever we please, just like we're not a party to the ICC.




by Trolly McTrollson k

lol, the US never gives a **** about international law. OFC we use banned chemical weapons and landmines whenever we please, just like we're not a party to the ICC.

This is just stupid, dangerous hating. Guess what. The US is way better than shithead countries like Russia, China and Iran. It does care, and everyone is better for it.

And the more we tell ourselves we aren't better, dont care, pull back from international affairs, and let these countries take the forefront; the more the rest of the world suffers.

Africa is going through devastating coups, civil wars and ethnic cleansing right now exactly because the Western world is pulling back, China and Russia are becoming more influential; and are promoting tremendous levels of human suffering exactly because they dont give a single ****.

And the horseshoe hating on western liberal order from the far right and far left is tremendously dangerous and destructive for everyone; especially the most vulnerable people in the world. At least the far right doesn't pretend they give a ****. Much better than sanctimonious progressive better than thou haters.


He’s absolutely right, the US cares so much.

They have a decades long proven track record of spending billions of dollars arming the likes of Taliban, Osama, KLA and other extremists formerly found on FBI’s recognized terrorist organizations list.

They literally couldn’t possibly care any more about money, or any less about who dies as a result.

Anything for a buck.

by Dunyain k

It does care, and everyone is better for it.


Willing to bet any amount there’s give or take several hundred million Iraqis Lybians Serbs Haitians etc etc etc who aren’t “better for it” or did you mean just white people in the west that are better for it?


it's amazing how you guys don;t understand foreign policy at all


High levels of delusion and a need to virtue signal.


we understand that the foreign policy of the USA and its Israeli proxy is based on murder for profit.


by Victor k

we understand that the foreign policy of the USA and its Israeli proxy is based on murder for profit.

Tell me you don't understand without saying you don't understand.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims...

Maybe it’s just western Zionist propaganda, but it seems like the Palestinians are being left high and dry by all of their supporters. I’m still in awe at the amount of misinformation and manipulation that it must have took to convince them that Trump was going to save them. And they ate it up willingly.

The Palestinians have left themselves with nothing to offer to the Axis-of-Resistance.


You could literally write “red is blue” and as long as it’s preceded with “Israel is bad” they will call it an indisputable fact.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims...

Maybe it’s just western Zionist propaganda, but it seems like the Palestinians are being left high and dry by all of their supporters. I’m still in awe at the amount of misinformation and manipulation that it must have took to convince them that Trump was going to save them. And they ate it up willingly.

The Palestinians have left themselves with nothing to offer to the Axis-of-Resistance.

I dont think a single person thought that Trump was going to save them. talk about constructing a World Trade Center size strawman.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

You could literally write “red is blue” and as long as it’s preceded with “Israel is bad” they will call it an indisputable fact.

The silver lining to oct 7 is that it hey helped oust Assad and weaken hezbollah and Iran

I'm not even sure how much Iran is willing to help hamas at this point.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

You could literally write “red is blue” and as long as it’s preceded with “Israel is bad” they will call it an indisputable fact.

right but you dont even need to make up lies bc Israel is sniping children, burning people alive, burying people alive, and starving millions. they are using human shields and running rape torture camps. they are bragging about bulldozing over people and whining that the hands and feet are getting stuck in the tires.

its not even possible for most people to make up a lie about Israel that is worse than the truth.


You’re so delusional it’s sad. Congratulations on running your own cause into the ground.


by metsandfinsfan k

The silver lining to oct 7 is that it hey helped oust Assad and weaken hezbollah and Iran

I'm not even sure how much Iran is willing to help hamas at this point.

Yup. The Palestinians got manipulated by their own handlers and set themselves back at least another century.


predicts IDF will stay in Syria.

The prime minister seems to be angling for a legacy as the leader who expanded Israel's borders after 50 years of retreat.

Note Syria hasn't attacked Israel, but still got invaded.


yes they are planting Israeli flags in spots in Syria. politicians and media members are celebrating a future ski slope on the Mount Herman. expansion is a fundamental part of their ideology.

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