Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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there are plenty of sources about Hamas's issues that dont come from the people that are currently perpetrating a genocide. objectivity does not involve accepting or even debating the people who are engaged in materially supporting mass murder.
but I actually do learn a lot from Israelis and their media and social media. its far more chilling than you can imagine.
I learned a lot about bulldozing innocent people.
Anything that exposes hamas is either racist or Zionist propoganda to you and all of your posts have links from anti Israel racist Twitter accounts
You are so self unaware. Or maybe you are fully aware
You draw conclusions and find radical accounts to confirm your own biases
You should take a breath once in a blue moon and try to be objective for like 15 seconds even
You may actually learn something
I guess now you can hopefully understand then how it feels to be called "antisemitic" because we dont want more babies and kids to get massacred
the attempt to convict israel of genocide appears to be failing
in response, the icj is considering whether to broaden the definition of genocide, which in my view is cheating. any tomfoolery of this nature will confirm NO GENOCIDE!
Israeli soldiers say they are murdering Palestinians in Gaza
Palestinians in Gaza say they are being murdered by Israeli soldiers
Doctors and aid workers in Gaza say Israeli soldiers are murdering Palestinians.
Everyone in Gaza agrees what is going on, and yet a bunch of posters in this thread can't seem to figure it out.
the attempt to convict israel of genocide appears to be failing
in response, the icj is considering whether to broaden the definition of genocide, which in my view is cheating. any tomfoolery of this nature will confirm NO GENOCIDE!
Didn't Amnesty International broaden their definition on genocide also, when concluding their report? Typical biased bullshit from them.
there are plenty of sources about Hamas's issues that dont come from the people that are currently perpetrating a genocide. objectivity does not involve accepting or even debating the people who are engaged in materially supporting mass murder.
but I actually do learn a lot from Israelis and their media and social media. its far more chilling than you can imagine.
I learned a lot about bulldozing innocent people.
Yes I'm sure a "Palestinian journalist" whose twitter feed consists entirely of rants about how evil Israel and the IDF is, is a textbook example of objectivity.
not really sure what objectivity has to do with this. do you think he made it up?
Yes I'm sure a "Palestinian journalist" whose twitter feed consists entirely of rants about how evil Israel and the IDF is, is a textbook example of objectivity.
He mostly just reposts evil rants of Israeli soldiers and politicians, which demonstrates how genocidal many of Israel's soldiers and politicians are.
lol
thats not how facts work corpus. and ofc anyone with an ounce of humanity is biased against Israel. thats what happens with an illegal apartheid state doing genocide.
thats not how facts work corpus. and ofc anyone with an ounce of humanity is biased against Israel. thats what happens with an illegal apartheid state doing genocide.
Israel isn't engaging in genocide or apartheid no matter how many times you spam your false claims so it's all good in the hood bruv.
Right. So he's extraordinarily biased against Israel and isn't a reliable source. As genocidal as Hamas eh? What's left of 'em anyway.
Hamas does not have the capability to commit a genocide. It makes sense to focus on the military that is actively committing genocide over a group that has no ability to commit genocide.
Hamas does not have the capability to commit a genocide. It makes sense to focus on the military that is actively committing genocide over a group that has no ability to commit genocide.
You don't know that. If for example they got hold of chemical or biological weapons? Secondly that's irrelevant anyway as they readily state in their charter their desire for the annihilation of Israel . So yeah they're absolutely genocidal in inten5.
IDF aren't committing genocide and if you're going to engage in such bad faith hyperbole then it'll be utterly impossible to take you remotely seriously
Looks like palestinians are finally fighting among themselves. Proper timing, now the palestinian authority has a chance given Iran and the whole axis of evil is as weak as ever, they can believe Hamas isn't going to be supplied enough and Hez can't help them either at the time being.
https://x.com/HamasAtrocities/status/186...
Gonna become complicated for the propal crowd to pick a side there. Not hard for everyone else though, Hamas (and every other similar group within the palestinian people) has to be simply fully eradicated.
Hamas does not have the capability to commit a genocide. It makes sense to focus on the military that is actively committing genocide over a group that has no ability to commit genocide.
It must suck, seeing your heroes dismantled and unable to carry out their jihad. They no longer have the capability to commit genocide thanks to the actions of the IDF, which you’ve surely been protesting since Oct 7th.
You might want to let the Israeli and American intelligence communities know about your assessment of Hamas’ military capabilities. Let them have a nice laugh.
You don't know that. If for example they got hold of chemical or biological weapons? Secondly that's irrelevant anyway as they readily state in their charter their desire for the annihilation of Israel . So yeah they're absolutely genocidal in inten5.
IDF aren't committing genocide and if you're going to engage in such bad faith hyperbole then it'll be utterly impossible to take you remotely seriously
You would think that after 14 months of bombing and ground operations that Hamas would no longer be a threat. Well unless the Israelis have not really been focusing on eliminating Hamas and have instead been indiscriminately bombing civilians.
It must suck, seeing your heroes dismantled and unable to carry out their jihad. They no longer have the capability to commit genocide thanks to the actions of the IDF, which you’ve surely been protesting since Oct 7th.
You might want to let the Israeli and American intelligence communities know about your assessment of Hamas’ military capabilities. Let them have a nice laugh.
I hate Hamas. Unlike you and many other people in this thread I don't support groups that murder civilians such as Hamas and the IDF.
Hamas is the lesser of the two evils, because they are not the group actively committing a genocide and are responsible for a much lesser amount of death and destruction compared to the IDF.
Disgusting lying biased statement that for some reason is okay here. But no, most people that actually look at the facts understand that Israel is not perfect but do their best to protect themselves and their people
thats what happens with an illegal apartheid state doing genocide.
it is beyond disgusting to call Israel an illegal state. Beyond disgusting. But at least you have the balls to do it. Most Zionist haters claim they only want to stop the "occupation", not take the entire land for your state
I hate Hamas. Unlike you and many other people in this thread I don't support groups that murder civilians such as Hamas and the IDF.
Hamas is the lesser of the two evils, because they are not the group actively committing a genocide and are responsible for a much lesser amount of death and destruction compared to the IDF.
Gonna have to agree to disagree. Personally, I choose the genocidal terrorist org (Hamas) as the greater of the 2 evils.
