Israel/Palestine thread
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The Druze love living in Israel
The Druze men are required to serve in the idf
So that means Victor thinks they are idf for life so I doubt he cares about them enough to say they deserve self determination
Highlights
Jews are not a minority so exclude from dei
Jews have no genetic ties to Israel
Not antisemetic?
Maybe you missed my post earlier where I told you that Wikipedia is anti. Israel, so of course they will lie
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/druze...
There are about 150,000 members of the Druze community in Israel, according to the latest figures from the country's Central Bureau of Statistics.
Around 25,000 live in the Golan Heights — a rocky plateau overlooking the upper Jordan River valley on the west — which was seized by Israel from Syria during the Six-Day War in 1967 before it was formally annexed in 1981. Israel subsequently offered them citizenship.
Syria has for decades demanded the return of the area, which sits around 40 miles southwest of the country’s capital, Damascus, and is still seen as occupied territory under international law and United Nations Security Council resolutions.
After the outbreak of the Syrian civil war in 2011, a growing number of Druze in the Golan Heights have sought Israeli citizenship and roughly 25% of the community now hold it, according to Rami Zeedan, an associate professor of Israel studies at the University of Kansas, who is Druze himself.
Zeedan, who is also editor of the Druze Studies Journal, said that some are “becoming more connected to Israeli society,” while others remain firmly rooted in their identities as Syrians.Unlike members of Israel's Arab community, most of whom are Muslim or Christian, Israeli Druze are not exempt from military conscription and a large number serve with the Israel Defense Forces. Druze who do not hold Israeli citizenship are not subject to mandatory service.
At least 10 Druze officers and soldiers have been killed since Oct. 7, according Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, which reported that eight died in combat in Gaza and two others were killed in the north of the country, where cross-border attacks between Israel and Hezbollah have occurred almost daily since the war in the Gaza Strip began in October.
Maybe you didn't realize the Druze live throughout Israel, as do Jews Muslims and Christians, not just in the Golan Heights?
I always find it interesting
You don't know much about how Jordan occupied and annexed the west bank
You don't know much about the 2+million arab citizens of Israel that are a productive part of society
You don't know much about how people off all religions and backgrounds exist together in the only democratic state in the Middle East
You only "know a lot about" what fits your false Israel bad zionist occupying state agenda
every single day Israel proves that armed resistance is the only option. you cant beg the Western Empire to grant even the slightest shred of humanity. they will kill you for even asking.
Listen man, you go posting Hamas propaganda on social media from a literal Hamas command center what do you expect to happen?
Yes, it was a terrible idea for Hamas to do the Oct 7 attack, Israel flattening Gaza in response is not surprising. That does not mean it is morally justifiable. Anyone participating in or enabling the genocide of the Palestinians is evil.
I am glad you think Oct 7 was a "terrible idea". But you have removed it from the context of the intent of Hamas.
The specific goal of Hamas, and Iran, is not just the genocide of Israel, but its complete elimination. Given the ongoing existential threat Hamas and Iran represent to Israel there is absolutely moral justification for the destruction of Hamas.
This is war. Until the losing side surrenders, which has not yet happened, there is no reason to stop executing the war. Bye-bye Hamas.
its more like, until Hamas surrenders and Palestinians live as slaves, then we will continue burying entire families alive, burning entire families alive, sniping children, drone striking doctors.
every single day Israel proves that armed resistance is the only option. you cant beg the Western Empire to grant even the slightest shred of humanity. they will kill you for even asking.
Isreal LOVES killing doctors. Maybe even more than they enjoy killing children! Every day, some new doctor, working under the worst conditions possible in a desperate attempt to save lives, showing great bravery and compassion... gets ****ing domed by some IDF pig. It's almost enough to drive one insane.
Israel loves killing doctors even slightly more than metsandfinsfan loves spewing post after post of grade-school apologetics and proclaiming moral victory all while ignoring the content of the responses to him.
The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com 
Wikipedia finally suspending editors with huge anti Israel bias
Take THAT, Wikipedians! Selectively edited propaganda is OUR job!
-Official Office of Hasbara in Tel Aviv
Karl, take a timeout. You need to chill.
not quantifiable
its more like, until Hamas surrenders and Palestinians live as slaves, then we will continue burying entire families alive, burning entire families alive, sniping children, drone striking doctors.
part of the surrender terms needs to be security and a better life for palestenians. A coalition of neighboring Arab nations can oversee it
victor
if hamas surrenders and the terms are to end the blockade of gaza, form a new govt, and saudi, jordan, and egypt (and possibly qatar) can ensure the stability for several years so that israel can be forced to leave ... would that be okay?
or should hamas hold out until the west bank issue is resolved?
or should hamas hold out until the "illegal state" is no more?
i think even you realize that israel is not stopping with hamas in power. Especially with trump as president
so if you were hamas, and actually cared about your people, what would you do?
There is no moral limit to what Israel is morally allowed to do to guarantee it's safety, with regards to non-western-allied countries.
That's what being an ally means: we internalize the value of the human lives of citizens your country as something morally positive to preserve. If you aren't our ally we don't, simple as that.
victor
if hamas surrenders and the terms are to end the blockade of gaza, form a new govt, and saudi, jordan, and egypt (and possibly qatar) can ensure the stability for several years so that israel can be forced to leave ... would that be okay?
or should hamas hold out until the west bank issue is resolved?
or should hamas hold out until the "illegal state" is no more?
i think even you realize that israel is not stopping with hamas in power. Especially with trump as president
so if you were hamas,
its quite clear that Israel plans to murder and enslave them all and no external force is going to stop them. so if I was Hamas I would take out as many of their murderous soldiers that run over hundreds of people with tanks, snipe children, and drone strike doctors as possible before dying with dignity.
its quite clear that Israel plans to murder and enslave them all and no external force is going to stop them. so if I was Hamas I would take out as many of their murderous soldiers that run over hundreds of people with tanks, snipe children, and drone strike doctors as possible before dying with dignity.
so you would like the war to go on so that the gazan people will never have a good life?
thank you for your answer
its quite clear that Israel plans to murder and enslave them all and no external force is going to stop them. so if I was Hamas I would take out as many of their murderous soldiers that run over hundreds of people with tanks, snipe children, and drone strike doctors as possible before dying with dignity.
that sounds like an excuse to conduct endless war against the state of israel tbh
its not Hamas that is making the war go on. its the genocidal expansionist Western extension Israeli colony. Hamas arent going to be able stop the liquidation by making deals with the very people who want to kill them all.
