Israel/Palestine thread
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Why they did Nazi salutes? It's because they're Nazis. Not party members (probably), just that they love Adolph Hitler and have similar values.
The same corruption, power lust and supremacist values including hatred of other races but I'm not sure that Jewish people figure as prominently in their hatred as Muslims do, or as they did under Hitler.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Explain this:
So they keep passing things that say "deeply concerned" and do nothing because the USA doesn't veto all these do nothing resolutions? Is that right?
Meanwhile UN bans the sale of oil and a bunch of other stuff to North Korea instead of saying they are "deeply concerned" over and over again.
So they keep passing things that say "deeply concerned" and do nothing because the USA doesn't veto all these do nothing resolutions? Is that right?
Meanwhile UN bans the sale of oil and a bunch of other stuff to North Korea instead of saying they are "deeply concerned" over and over again.
And for you, this explains an entire planet on one side vs the Vancouver island sized one? That's your final answer?
That actually holds water for you?
Poor little Vancouver Island 2.0 with a massive military budget and bankrolled by the US for decades, the poor things.
And for you, this explains an entire planet on one side vs the Vancouver island sized one? That's your final answer?
That actually holds water for you?
People never seem to get this, but you made an absolute assertion and I said that it's not necessarily true. It's on you to prove not just that my speculation is possibly wrong or probably wrong, but that it's absolutely and necessarily wrong, while it's only on me to show that it's possible you are wrong.
In other news, it could all be nothing; but Israeli right wing Twitter is making noise that Druze, Kurds and Israel are making plans for the former 2 groups to secede from Syria and have self determination away from Muslim Arab and Iranian colonialism.
As we are all big fans of self determination and natives freeing themselves from colonial yoke, I am sure we all enthusiastically support such an outcome. Right?
Does this also hold true for hezbollah, Irgc and Houthi members, that enthusiastically do nazi salutes while calling for the death of Jews?
I think many of them are antisemitic, but not Nazis regardless of the salutes. I'd say essentially all of the instances of Arab propaganda featuring Nazis is either allying with the enemy of the British (an occupier before WW2) or Israel (their enemy and occupier (to a much lesser extent) after WW2 - and they are somewhat ignorant of the real Nazi ideology - unlike Musk and especially unlike Bannon.
People never seem to get this, but you made an absolute assertion and I said that it's not necessarily true. It's on you to prove not just that my speculation is possibly wrong or probably wrong, but that it's absolutely and necessarily wrong, while it's only on me to show that it's possible you are wrong.
Statistically, what you propose is impossible. Particularly since it happens EVERY year, with or without an intifada going.
Micro, the numbers can't be justified by anything other than human bias. In this case, human bias can only mean antisemitism.
The tiny Jewish state of under 10M cannot generate the numbers year over year for this relative to the other 8 billion people and 900,000 sq km of people.
Statistically, what you propose is impossible. Particularly since it happens EVERY year, with or without an intifada going.
Micro, the numbers can't be justified by anything other than human bias. In this case, human bias can only mean antisemitism.
The tiny Jewish state of under 10M cannot generate the numbers year over year for this relative to the other 8 billion people and 900,000 sq km of people.
You can assert it all you want and that's not proof.
North Korea has a shitload of very meaningful and strict sanctions against it. If none of those sanctions could ever pass because one country on the security council vetoed them, then maybe the UN would pass chastising after chastising resolution.
Statistically, what you propose is impossible. Particularly since it happens EVERY year, with or without an intifada going.
Micro, the numbers can't be justified by anything other than human bias. In this case, human bias can only mean antisemitism.
The tiny Jewish state of under 10M cannot generate the numbers year over year for this relative to the other 8 billion people and 900,000 sq km of people.
You should consider taking a glass-half-full view instead, and celebrate that the UN haven't gone into Israel and captured all the war criminals who you admire. Poor little Israel!
I think many of them are antisemitic, but not Nazis regardless of the salutes. I'd say essentially all of the instances of Arab propaganda featuring Nazis is either allying with the enemy of the British (an occupier before WW2) or Israel (their enemy and occupier (to a much lesser extent) after WW2 - and they are somewhat ignorant of the real Nazi ideology - unlike Musk and especially unlike Bannon.
sounds like you're making it up as you go
Social media is just full of Israelis doing war crimes and revelling in it.
Rafki: why does everyone hate Israel? Must be antisemitism!
You can assert it all you want and that's not proof.
North Korea has a shitload of very meaningful and strict sanctions against it. If none of those sanctions could ever pass because one country on the security council vetoed them, then maybe the UN would pass chastising after chastising resolution.
Micro, what you're saying makes no sense.
This is one of the resolutions against Korea in 2021. The year Israel had 14 and the rest of the world 5
https://docs.un.org/en/A/C.3/76/L.27
It relates to the situation of "human rights" in North Korea.
That year Syria got ONE, Myanmar ONE, Crimea ONE, Iran ONE
All of those were on the basis of "human rights".
Do you believe that in 2021, when looking at "human rights" across the globe, that ratio makes a lick of sense?
On any given year you could/should be giving Iran half a dozen. It's literally one of the most oppressive places on the planet, specially for half the population that doesn't have a penis.
And you think this isn't a blatant example of a voting system where right out the gate, 50+ votes all go exactly the same way?
