Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Norm Finkelstein is a cool dude and all one has to do is compare him to the absolutely maniacal freaks who oppose him to appreciate him.
I guess rafiki and BOIDS and ILOVEDEADKIDS are big fans of Norm's big enemy Alan Dershowitz (who, by sheer coincidence, was a friend and lawyer to Jeffrey Epstein!)
Two separate posts in which a guy gleefully cheering on the mass murder of children accuses someone else of mental illness. Doyle is also a fan of accusing all of his opponents (i.e., those opposed to mass murder of children) of antisemitism, a deranged and obviously false claim; a mentally-well person isn't too likely to do so.
Look inward, fascist.
I’m actually very much against the mass murder of children. I’ve consistently advocated against Hamas using their women and children as shields. I’ve also questioned why Hamas doesn’t provide shelters for their civilians. If it was up to me, we’d go back in time before Oct 7th and maybe all these children wouldn’t die. You on the other hand, cheer for Oct 7th and think it was a great victory.
Being called a fascist by a brainwashed Hamas supporter. Must have learned that word on TikTok.
Oh word? Tell me, which side has killed more children in this conflict? You can take the entire history of Israel/Palestine, or just 10/7 and after, it's all good.
Guy supports the intentional bombing of schools, hospitals and nurseries (and then says it's OK because Hamas may or may not have been in there!) and then has the gall to pretend being against the murdering of "inconvenient" children...
Being called a fascist by a brainwashed Hamas supporter. Must have learned that word on TikTok.
TikTok, lol. Just go ahead and jam allllll of your grievances in there. I've never been on TikTok, in my life, so move on to your next evil, anti-child murder lib website and talk about how I get my opinions from, I don't know, Reddit, another place I've never frequented.
lol tiktok
my man thinks the evil Chinese are turning our American kids into Third-Worldist revolutionaries and/or jihadists, one 15-second video of some guy in a car complaining about whatever dumb feelings they want to express at a time!
Norman Finkelstein is a man of principle who has sacrificed for his principles. He did not cheer for the Oct 7th breakout. He expressed a nuanced position which was neither an endorsement or condemnation, basically saying he can't judge people in concentration camps as to how they feel they should free themselves. He compared it to slave uprisings in the U.S., in particular the Nat Turner uprising. In that uprising, children of slavers were killed. And, in fact, Finkelstein said he was so confli
For the past 20 years the people of Gaza, half of whom are children, have been immured in a concentration camp. Today they breached the camp's walls. If we honor John Brown's armed resistance to slavery; if we honor the Jews who revolted in the Warsaw Ghetto—then moral consistency commands that we honor the heroic resistance in Gaza. I, for one, will never begrudge—on the contrary, it warms every fiber of my soul—the scenes of Gaza's smiling children as their arrogant Jewish supremacist oppressors have, finally, been humbled. The stars above in heaven are looking kindly down. Glory, glory, hallelujah. The souls of Gaza go marching
He said this after Oct 07. That's most assuredly cheering on Hamas, who warm every fibre of Finkelstein's soul, according to himself.
He's a scumbag.
Oppressed me arse, they could have had their own state yonks ago.
Go easy on poor corpus vile, he’s not really capable of thinking for himself.
He said this after Oct 07. That's most assuredly cheering on Hamas, who warm every fibre of Finkelstein's soul, according to himself.
He's a scumbag.
You misrepresented the quote a little bit. but it still doesn't make him a scumbag. He's cheering for the good guys, the ones trying to free themselves from inhuman oppression.
Scumbags are wealthy opportunists. Finkelstein volunteers. He has refused to conform to the opinion of the powerful in this age where the powerful are the evil and the greedy. He has a PhD from Princeton. All he ever had to do was sellout and he could live the comfortable life of a tenured professor. He's spent his life attacking powerful scumbags like Dershowitz and Netanyahoo. Why would he do that unless he was fighting for what he thought was good?
whether they could have had a state or not, they DON'T, and are, here on actual Planet Earth, a stateless people being oppressed (and worse) by an ethnostate, which, of course, is the entire point
It's more that they have been taken advantage of by their leadership. They are born into hating Israel. Their schools teach it. Hamas summer camp teaches it. Israel has simply tightened things up after every Jihad.
Prior to 67 they might have. After they curb stomped their Arab neighbors and became bigger it made sense to settle in and build.
Many people believe the 2nd Infintada was the point of no return; where Israel decided the Palestinians were never going to accept Israel (in any form), and make peace. And that is the point Israel decided to take unilateral action to guarantee future physical security against Palestinian Jihad.
Given the clear affinity of the Irish for the Palestinian people and culture, and also given Ireland is a mostly empty island with a decreasing native population rate; it really makes sense to give Palestinians a section of the island to turn into their own nation. And give Palestinians extremely high levels of fecundity, they could provide the base of young people that would make the island's productivity skyrocket, and Ireland/Palestine would quickly become an economic and cultural powerhouse of Europe.
Win/Win
Israel is back to murdering babies in their sleep. tell me more about making peace with them.
Given the clear affinity of the Irish for the Palestinian people and culture, and also given Ireland is a mostly empty island with a decreasing native population rate; it really makes sense to give Palestinians a section of the island to turn into their own nation. And give Palestinians extremely high levels of fecundity, they could provide the base of young people that would make the island's productivity skyrocket, and Ireland/Palestine would quickly become an economic and cultural powerhouse
right and then suddenly some extremist archaeologists would find out the Jews lived there at some point in time and Israel would carpet bomb the place.
Hamas is releasing the hostages and following the terms in the cease fire. Yemen stopped the blockade.
Israel decides to carpet bomb the strip to kill as many civilians as possible in a surprise attack on starving people in tents and rubble in the middle of the night. its almost like they dont want the hostages back and would prefer to murder 100s of Palestinians every day. gotta wonder about the priorities of such a country.
Israel is back to murdering babies in their sleep. tell me more about making peace with them.
There won't be peace and you are a great example why. You will never say anything good about Israel and the Israel people in here will never say anything good about Gazans. The hate is deep. there is no objectivity which bores me about this thread. The only people who care about I/P are Arabs, Jews and our resident virtue signalers. Nobody else in the world cares what happens to either side. The problem is the religious fanatics on both sides. I'm going to Israel with my brother and his wife as part of a group trip organized by their place of worship. I am not looking forward to being around creepy religious fanatics. These are the can't use electricity at certain times of the year types. To each his own, but not for me.
Norm Finkelstein is a cool dude and all one has to do is compare him to the absolutely maniacal freaks who oppose him to appreciate him.
I guess rafiki and BOIDS and ILOVEDEADKIDS are big fans of Norm's big enemy Alan Dershowitz (who, by sheer coincidence, was a friend and lawyer to Jeffrey Epstein!)
He's a creep but I can't fault him for having his beliefs.
There won't be peace and you are a great example why. You will never say anything good about Israel and the Israel people in here will never say anything good about Gazans. The hate is deep. there is no objectivity which bores me about this thread. The only people who care about I/P are Arabs, Jews and our resident virtue signalers. Nobody else in the world cares what happens to either side. The problem is the religious fanatics on both sides. I'm going to Israel with my brother and his wife as
I dont know about religious extremists, but you will be surrounded by some genocidal Extremists no doubt. or maybe mass murder is just normal for Westerners.
Pretty wild stories coming to of what happened in Hamliton Hall. Some massive lawsuits going down the pipeline for Columbia.
Basically, rioters for months were marking up the building with swastikas and generally just trashing the place, then when the janitors had to continually clean up after them (they said they had to scrub off so many swastikas they lost count) the rioters mocked them and called them "Jew lovers." And Columbia was aware of all this going down and did nothing.
And then the night of the Hamilton Hall takeover both janitors were locked in the building, physically roughed up, and called antisemitic slurs. Until they eventually fought their way out.
Many of the rioters who it was proved were involved in the takeover and assaults on the janitors were expelled, but obviously Columbia has some serious liability issues for letting it get this far.
