Israel/Palestine thread

Misinfo was not spread, I did not say something incorrect, and you did not correct me. I was very clear with that paragraph, and I even highlighted that I did not remember it distinctly: "something along the lines of"

You do not get to cut off someone's sentence and then act as if that is the entire thing that they said, that is exceptionally dishonest.

the problem is that no victims have spoken to anyone.

do you think the Ukrainians are doing mass rape on civilians in Kursk or Donbas? why not?

This is blatantly false. Listen to the clip I posted for the story of one. Read some of the reports.

If you want to read their story from a publication, then that would fall under my original statement of "go public". Especially if you want them to speak to the Intercept.

in which BGP emphatically proclaims that he will not leave out the 'or' part of that conditional statement.

today I learned if you just chain a bunch of ors together in a statement then you can never be wrong and never post disinfo. brb, about to tell my Russian handlers.

And you wanted me to hire you to be my programmer. What do you think "or" means? Why is it that the second sentence can only refer to the part before the or and not the part after?

TIL if you cut someone's sentence off wherever you want it's way easier to argue against their point!

you said that it was possible that EI claimed a women hallucinated being raped. they did not do such a thing. in the future, if you want to be accurate or precise, you can now leave that implication out of your post. or not.

Your grasp of the English language...

Here is what I said

Here is what you bolded to argue against:

It's no longer even a proper sentence you butchered it so much.

This feels like expert level trolling, but I think you're actually serious...

were months were spent discrediting women who claimed they experienced rape?

my friend is an amateur or professional athlete. not sure which.

he is not a professional athlete.

I know, I just said he is an amateur or professional athlete.

Yep.

I don't think those last 3 posts prove what you think they prove...

My friend was a professional or amateur athlete.

Victor: Oh no, I was wrong, he was an amateur athlete.

....

The password was 12345 or 56789.

Viktor: Oh no I was wrong, the password was 56789.

Good talk...

reminder, evidence is not required when laundering atrocity propaganda to justify a mass extermination event of undesirables. and all the evidence in the world will not convince a pro-West Imperialist that undesirables are being unfairly abused.

There is a lot of evidence, you just ignore it.

It seems that even though my original statement didn't accurately convey my thoughts, it did capture what you require to believe that rape occurred on Oct 7.

There are testimonials, both public and confidential.

There is photo and video evidence which strongly suggests that it occurred even if it does not outright show it happening.

I do not deny rape/abuse of Palestinians like you are suggesting.

Victor, I'm still not understanding you. Are you simply saying that rape occurred on 10/7 because some individuals went rogue from the plot or that there was no rape at all?

I think we get that you don't believe that rape wasn't a part of the Hamas plot and that there was less rape than has been reported, but you're jumping around with rhetorical questions and whatabouts that it's difficult to understand you.

so far there is no credible and conclusive evidence of any rape. given the lies presented so far from the Israeli gov, IDF, and Zaka type orgs, it will unfortunately cast doubt on anything that arises in the future.

If I can show you a video that clearly shows a woman was raped, would you change your position

you should probably show the UN too bc they couldnt find any

Hammering down on if and how many were raped on oct 7th strange considering the total carnage and deaths and probably more rape since oct 7th.

Sure, Hamas probably raped some folks, they are an actual group of gyno phobic, wife beating, jew hating nazis with a hanker to **** and kill anything that breaths. Which is why they cant have nice things.

But we also have about 10k dead women and children who were likely just as innocent as those murdered at the festival.

No the truth is important. Bc it invalidates your assessment of Hamas.

Ex military personnel are just as innocent as non ex military women or children?

Maybe, but I can only go by their own actions, and the actions Israel has taken against them. Even if I were to take the most charitable interpretation of their requests and demands and the assurance that they'd honor it all in good faith, their reckless endangerment in itself that they've placed on their own people alone is worthy of condemnation and warrants their removal as a leadership - preferablly, peacefully through their own govt. But again, I don't think Hamas is just this miscalculated and this awful at achieving these goals.

Yes. I wouldn't walk into some old dude's house party today and shoot him because he fought in the Six Day War.

But could you expand on how many of the 1,200 you think were ex military and what that means for starting a war.

Simply put, I honestly can't imagine that Hamas is shocked by Israel's response to the oct 7th attack. If this was the preferred outcome for a group of freedom fighters, you're a pretty shitty military organization.